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Re: Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders

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Subject: Re: Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 19:59:23 -0800 (PST)
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You better believe that.  And that was the reason some crews got over the road faster.  They did the work.  When on road trips(Very few) to learn the territory one of the first questions asked was do you guys keep a black book.  NO.  It was a learned event and you knew who would work for you and get over the road.
Three years retired.  Best move I ever made
Steve (on my own hill) in SC



From: Karl <qrailroadman@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 24, 2012 3:42:13 PM
Subject: Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders

 

Hi SJH. Your view of Engineers was probably quite similar to my view of Dispatchers. Ya know WHO is most likely ta do WHAT. Having that information available can, sometimes, help ta make your day a little brighter.

Karl
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you Karl. You hit the nail right on the head. Knowing that
> As a Dispatcher you had to multitask in reading, writing listening to repeats
> and the radio all at the same time while figuring out what you were going to do
> next with many trains and all while watching the CTC and figuring out how to
> make moves and keep the trains moving. You had to take the HARD days along with
> the easy days and keep going. Be able to make that call to the Supt. with the
> bad news and tell him your plan to keep it rolling. Only to have your relief
> walk in say get out of the chair and go home. As it was his turn to battle the
> dragon.
> Steve in SC
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Karl <qrailroadman@...>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, November 24, 2012 10:04:39 AM
> Subject: Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders
>
>
> A discussion of "how things were" and how this ARE is an entire subject unto
> itself! The changes since the "Smoke 'em down the westbound, kid" days and
> today go well beyond "dramatic", they're revolutionary ! Even I will admit that
> we made profligate use of resources but, it was FUN !!!! A tempering of train
> handling "techniques" was probably in order and appropriate but the degree to
> which we have evolved has, in this guy's opinion, gone "over the edge" in the
> opposite direction. In todays RR environment "following the rules" has BECOME
> the job, whereas, runnin' the ENGINE used to be the job. Even the slighest
> infraction MUST be "confessed" to a supervisor so that, if a review of your trip
> data should reveal this "infraction", you will not be deemed "DISHONEST" for
> having failed to turn yourself in, so to speak. It kinda goes without saying
> that I'd be quite "uncomfortable" with things as they "are".
>
> I'm done.
>
> Karl
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, dhartman@ wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. I guess I kind of knew that. Leo's probably correct in his airline
> >analogy. Better for efficiency, investment, etc. But losing a lot, also (and I
> >know you're smiling, Karl).
> >
> > Does anyone know how tight they keep things - how much slack they cut engineers
> >on running?
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Barber <clipperw@>
> > Sender: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 15:08:46
> > To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> > Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re:Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders
> >
> > Doug,
> >
> > Modern locomotives have a computer style hard drive which can be removed. In
> >most cases, they can record several days worth of data. They monitor a number of
> >different functions and activities. The hard drive can be downloaded or removed,
> >which usually occurs after an incident. Man locomotives also have forward facing
> >cameras that run continuously with the data also stored on a drive. In addition,
> >GPS is available on most locomotives so that train location and progress can be
> >monitored. Finally, some locomotives are equipped with system that offload
> >locomotive health data while en route. This data often goes back to the
> >mechanical department and the locomotive manufacturer for analysis.
> >
> >
> > Bill Barber
> > Gravois Mills, MO
> >
> > On Nov 23, 2012, at 5:20 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> > > Re: Fwd: [CBQ] Re: Boyer speed recorders
> > > Thu Nov 22, 2012 11:04 am (PST) . Posted by:"dhartman@"
> >douglas_p_hartmanAnd on the subject of Big Brother, do they still have speed
> >recorders? Something electronic? Or do they use GPS?
> >
> > >
> > > And, as Steve and others well know, there were rarely any secrets from
> >dispatchers. Funny how we would get further down the line for meets with some
> >engineers rather than others ;)
> >
> > >
> > > Doug
> >
>



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