Thanks Gerald and Dave!
Duncan
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Lotz
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
Yes, the archives does contain almost a complete collection of annual
reports, but as Gerald said, until we can find a permanent home for them,
they are pretty much inaccessible.
Dave Lotz
Past VP of Archives
-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Gerald Edgar
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 2:49 PM
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
I am uncertain as to whether BRHS archives have any but regardless, til we
find a permanent home for same, they are not readily accessible.
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Gerald
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: d.cameron@sympatico.ca
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:11:38 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
Gerald, Wow! What a source of info. I'd always assumed annual reports
would be balance sheets and such. I'd never thought of them as a way to
track the construction or installation of buildings and other facilities.
How rare are they? Does the BRHS archives have any?
Duncan Cameron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Edgar" <vje68@hotmail.com>
To: <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
>
> In a word (whether coaches modified into Way Cars had their #'s shown):
> no.
>
> I think CB&Q A.R.'s may be a good subject for a future Zephyr. (C&S/FtW&D
> stat's are included in later yrs but also had supplements available in
> some yrs)
>
> All issues are roughly two parts: prose as to how the past year went,
> major initiatives, challenges etc and what plans are going forward and
> then lots of financial statistics.
>
> Included are summary's of new track & signal work (and new passenger train
> service), bridges and major bldgs constructed (depots, frt houses, etc)
> etc. Until the Murphy yrs there is seldom any mention of car #'s (very
> early issues do have a fold out detailing every locomotive - this was the
> source of the info Bernie Corbin had in his "Steam Loco's", i.e. he
> xeroxed said pages.
>
> Sometimes A.R.'s will get fairly detailed (elevation work in Chicago &
> Aurora) and other times fairly sketchy. When equipment is built, modified
> or purchased (or scrapped), it's in terms of "16 boxcars, 3 coaches, etc"
> with seldom much info beyond that, usually no mention of which commercial
> builder (shop-built is always mentioned however). The summaries always do
> included frt, pass AND MoW which is a plus. I had intended this past w/e
> to look thru carefully for experimental gas/electric motive power per
> Charlie's request. (my w/e ended up with a visit to my parents & a
> depressing loss of our Hawkeyes to Northwestern so has been put off to
> next w/e)
>
> My A.R. collection is scattered from 1862 to late 1870's and then nearly a
> solid 'run' to BN time. The odd year is 1916 when 2 A.R.'s were issued as
> BR transitioned from a July to June Fiscal yr to a Calendar FY; photos
> were not used til the PZ issue and then not again til 1949 with color
> coming in under Murphy with his yrs being by far the best A.R.'s from a
> railfan viewpoint although the detailed info as to carloadings in earlier
> issues is diminished so is a trade-off.
>
>
> Gerald
>
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> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> From: gamlenz@ihug.co.nz
> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:05:37 +1300
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
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> Gerald
>
> I don't suppose it gave the numbers of the coaches?
>
> And whilst you are going through the Reports, could you keep an eye out
> for a "scale test car", please. In 1901, there was one
> listed in the ORER as 90152 but no indication, of course, of its origins.
> Bulletin 27 identifies early C&S and FW&D scale cars as
> being converted from a coach and a tender but no information about the
> Burlington's one.
>
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerald Edgar" <vje68@hotmail.com>
> To: <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:33 AM
> Subject: RE: [CBQ] Commercial Post - The Burlington Waycars
>
>>
>> GREAT!!!!
>>
>> AND hopefully not too late; going thur my OLD CB&Q A.R.'s (back to
>> 1862) - first mention of "Waycars" in in Annual Rpt of 1868
>> (printed late summer of 1868 as Fiscal yr was July to June says "two
>> coaches converted to Way Car service" From this date forward
>> "waycar" is the exclusive term, intially as two words, later as one. From
>> 1876 back the term is alwats "Conductor's cars".
>>
>> yes I know - why in heck didn't I notice this before????
>>
>>
>> Gerald A. & Virginia J. Edgar
>>
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