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Re: [CBQ] Re: [MILW] Re: The Board of Directors

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: [MILW] Re: The Board of Directors
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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:58:41 -0500
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Gerald-

This has been the start of a most interesting discussion and I would hate to 
see it cut off unless it becomes a fist fight.

As much as I love the Q and cherish Overton's various works, I am not sure 
that the CB&Q, in the time period being discussed,
was the progressive, well built, well managed machine that we normally think 
of.

I am in the middle of enjoying Dave Leiter's "Wisconsin Central in Illinois" 
which is a fascinating glance into the 1880-1910 railroad scene in Chicago 
as well as being an important history of the WC / C&NP / SOO.   Some figures 
presented in the book, not directly about the Q, seem to suggest that the 
MILW was a much stronger railroad than the CB&Q, at least as far as the Twin 
Cities traffic is concerned.   As to the physical plant, I don't know that 
the argument can be made that the CB&Q was a top notch property then.... the 
grade from Congress Park to State Road (LaGrange Road) followed, if it can 
be believed, the same one that the West Towns labored up.  I rode my bike up 
Burlington Avenue and the old West Towns ROW, and it was steep..... the 
ruling grade east of the Mississippi before the track was raised in 1895 (by 
commission order after a lawsuit) against the wishes of the CB&Q.

I am not sure that Overton was entirely an unbiased historian....and it is 
interesting to ponder why the CB&Q, with its other achievements, was not 
able to get the mail contract between Chicago and the Twin Cities, and why 
the owners of the road, the NP and the GN, used other lines to bring their 
trains into Chicago for some time after the merger.   Perhaps is was more 
than family jealousy!!!????

Charlie Vlk 


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