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[CBQ] Re: Savanna Pick Up

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Savanna Pick Up
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Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:29:22 -0000
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@... wrote:
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> Paul,
>  
> What I know of the pick up comes from conversations with the old  heads 
> that worked it. There are a couple guys who also worked the pickup in  the 
> late 
> 60s on this list.
> Keep in mind that over the decades with changes in the C&I day w/f  the 
> pickups duties would change. The daytime westbound w/f changed many  times 
> over 
> the decades from  Eola-Chadwick, Eola-Oregon turns,out one day  and back 
> the next layover at Savanna,etc(see ETTs). Also depending on which time  
> frame 
> your studying #81 was the night westbound w/f.or mdse job.(1946,47,58,59  
> ETT). I can find no reference to the P/U in any ETT.
> The pickup left Savanna eastbound and worked to Cicero. Depending on the  
> time frame it would start right out at Chadwick and work everything east from 
>  there to Sugar Grove,as needed. Also on the nights that the Rockford w/f 
> was off  it could run between Flag Center and Rockford. It's main function 
> was to handle  the Oregon,Rockford(at Flag Center), Rochelle and Eola pickups 
> and set outs. As  the industries at Oregon and Rochelle grew in the 50s and 
> 60's so did the  pick up. The job was manned from the C&I pool crews laying 
> over at  Savanna. It was generally near a 16 hr job by the time they got to 
> Cicero.
> I have had conversations with guys who spoke of working all the stations to 
>  Oregon for example and then the other points mentioned above. One of the 
> big  issues with catching the P/U home was that several crews would pass you 
> while in  route and since there was no "run around" while on the road you 
> would have short  rest at home before being called westbound again. The other 
> crews would enjoy a  normal layover.
> By the time I came along under BN the westbound was #353 and eastbound #364 
>  with work unofficially limited to p/u and s/o at Eola, Rochelle,Flag 
> Center and  Oregon with an occasional "short" thrown in for good measure. 
> Generally we were  11 or 12 hrs and occasionally towed in. I once had the 
> pleasure 
> of working  6 round trips in a row on these 2 jobs !? #353 was ordered 
> around midnight and  #364 could be ordered almost anytime but generally once 
> #353s power  arrived.
>  
> Leo Phillipp
> 
>

Thanks Leo, and also all the rest of you who responded to my question.
This provides a lot of great insight into Pick Up operations on the C&I Sub 
east of Savanna, and answers some questions I had not thought to ask about 
operations around Oregon and thru Flag Center to Rockford.  Thanks for that 
discussion y'all!!

I am still curious about "Pick Up" operations north of Savanna, however.  I 
guess these would've been on the LaCrosse Division, but I don't really know 
anything about whether or how the would've operated.
Leo stimulated this question when he asked about returning banana reefers to IC 
at Dubuque or East Dubuque to run to Savanna.  Did they run a pickup south from 
Dubuque to Savanna?  Did they pickup & setout at Galena Junction (for CGW)or 
Galena?  How often and what about schedules during 1950's & 1960's




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