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RE: [SPAM][CBQ] Trackage around St. Joseph

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From: GLEN HAUG <glenehaug@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:16:50 -0800
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Archie:  This information has been very helpful, but has raised another 
question regarding Armour to Winthrop.  If Armour to Winthrop was built by 
KCStJ&CB in 1898, then the original line by Platte Co. from Winthrop to Weston 
must have by-passed Armour and been on a separate alignment from Winthrop to 
some point south of Armour, where it joined the current KC-StJoe main prior to 
reaching Weston.  Do you know where this point was?
 
Glen Haug



To: CBQ@yahoogroups.comFrom: kliner@mywdo.comDate: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 12:40:58 
-0600Subject: Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Trackage around St. Joseph



Glen, Here is the rest of the story. In 1867 the Council Bluffs & St Joseph RR 
Co was organized under the laws of Iowa to build 53.42 miles from CB to the Mo 
Iowa state line At the same time the St Joseph & Council Bluffs RR Co was 
organized and built 80.93 miles from the state line south to St Joe. In April 
of 1869 these companies were consolidated under the name St Joseph & Council 
Bluffs RR Co which was then cosolidated with the Mo Valley RR in May of 1870 
becoming the KCStJ&CB RR Co.In 1870 this company built an extension north from 
Maryville to the Iowa state line via Hopkins a distance of 16 miles. In 1872 
they leased the two miles from Hopkins to the state line to the Burlington and 
Missouri River RR Co to be operated as part of their Creston branch. The 
original line from St Joe to Savannah 17 miles was abandoned in 1872, and a 
cutoff was built from Amazonia to a point near Savannah (6 miles) in 1872. 
There were 3 other branches built by this company (one mile) East Leavenworth 
to Stillings in 1892, Armour to East Atcinsin(Winthrop) 3.5 miles in 1898, and 
Nebraska City Junction to Crosby, Iowa ( 3.65 miles). This company caused the 
orginisation of the Nodaway Valley RR Co in March 1879. and the Tarkio Valley 
RR Co in 1880. From Jan 1883 to Oct 1887 it operated the St Joseph & Nebraska 
RR under a lease. The followinf info was gleaned from WW Baldwin's CB&Q RR CO 
DOCUMENTARY HISTORY Vol two Lines in Iowa and Missouri----- Original Message 
----- From: Archie To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 
1:02 AMSubject: Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Trackage around St. JosephGlen, Citizens of St 
Joe organized a road in 1853 called the Platte County RR Co and built north 17 
miles to Savannah in 1860. In 1855 they organized a road called the Atchison 
and St Joseph RR Co and built 19.4 miles south to Winthrop in the year 1859. 
That same year they organized the Weston and Atchison RR Co and built south 
15.24 miles from Winthrop to Weston in 1861. In July of 1859 all three 
companies were united by contracts. In 1863 the name of the Platte County RR Co 
was changed to the Platte Country RR Co.. In 1864 they defaulted on loans from 
the state of Missouri and by a special act of the state legislature in February 
of 1865 the state as owner , vested title to the entire properties from 
Savannah to Weston jointly in the two companies namely the Atchison and St 
Joseph and the Weston and Atchison and they agreed to complete the roads and 
widen the guage. The legislature in March of 1867 changed the A&StJ to Missouri 
Valley RR Co and consolidated them with the the W&A. The MVRR extended north to 
Maryville 34.09 miles in 1869 and south to North Kansas City 25.26 miles in 
that same year. This brought the length of the MVRR to 111.35 miles from 
Maryville to KC. I will continue later with the building out of Council Bluffs 
but I am sleepy. Regards, Archie PS I'm not smart but WW Baldwin was.----- 
Original Message ----- From: zephyr98072 To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, 
December 05, 2008 8:22 PMSubject: [SPAM][CBQ] Trackage around St. JosephI am 
looking for information that would verify the earliest construction north and 
south from St. Joseph. The information in Overton's book is a little confusing 
to me. It indicates that trackage existed from St. Joseph to Weston and from 
St. Joseph to Savannah Jct. perhaps as early as 1859, but doesn't indicate who 
constructed it.It seems too early to be either SJ&CB or KCSJ&CB. Was it H&StJ, 
or could it have been MV? (who evidently constructed some of the trackage north 
of Savannah toward Creston)? I'm not sure what MV stands for, but am guessing 
Missouri Valley?Could it also be true that the original trackage from St. 
Joseph to Savannah (Jct?.) may not have gone via Amazonia, but by some other 
route that was torn up when the SJ&CB was built between Council Bluffs and St. 
Joseph?Thanks for any insight.Glen Haug[Non-text portions of this message have 
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