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Re: [CBQ] Suburban "Circus Paint Scheme" Converted Cars

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Suburban "Circus Paint Scheme" Converted Cars
From: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:25:25 -0500
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You can, if you wish, get something exactly correct - NKP Car offers 
the commuter cars - unfortunately, it appears as though his web page 
is down and has been highjacked.

Note that the proper term is not "bubbles" but ducts.  The reason I 
mention it is that it is very important to realize that these ARE A/C 
ducts, and the ducts can be routed outside or inside the car.  In 
some strange cases (like the abomination that became the A/C WP 
diners), the ducts were placed on top of arched roofs making that 
series of cars one of the prime candidates for ugliest on the 
planet.  Some of the CB&Q cars had interior ducts (in other words, 
the ducting was in the clerestory between the decks) while some had 
them on the exterior.  It is also necessary to understand that the 
exterior furnishing can make the car look like it has an arched roof, 
while in reality, new seething was applied to the exterior of the 
roof that fared the roof between decks.  These aren't true arched 
roofs, as the top deck is still flat instead of arched.  From the 
side though, they can look arched.  Whole roofs could get the 
faring/sheathing making the cars look like they had arched roofs - 
note the Walthers modernized B&O coach is one example.


At 04:06 PM 6/17/2008, qutlx1@aol.com wrote:
>I have always wanted to model the suburban cars in what some call the
>"Circus Paint Scheme" or the Forest Green with tan window 
>band,yellow  pinstriping
>and Alum. roof and vestibules. It's clear (at least to me) 
>that  short of major
>kit bashing nothing is a "close enough" conversion for the Aurora  Shop built
>7100's. We won't even broach the subject of the "power cars".
>
>However using the many available source books and BRHS Bulletins I've  pretty
>well narrowed it down to nine potential reasonably easy conversions. The
>four 4500 ACF built 4500 series cars (4506,07,27 and ?) and the five  Pullman
>built 6100 series (6151,6135.....). Lets make that 7 relatively 
>easy  conversions
>as the 6135 and (?) had the air conditioning bubbles.
>
>What I'm hoping you guys can confirm is that the 4500's didn't have  the A/C
>bubbles and which H.O.scale ,available off the shelf cars are  reasonable
>likenesses for these cars. "Close enough" is good enough for me. 
>If  the window
>counts and spacing are right,correct roof ,ends and trucks. I'd  be a happy
>modeler. Just looking for something that can be painted,lettered and  called
>"close enough".
>
>Does it exist ?
>
>Thanks,
>Leo Phillipp
>
>
>
>
>
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