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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:39:34 -0600
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Bob,

Of course, the Saudi government has enough of "OUR" money to  
rehabilitate the train, ship it to the U.S., provide space for it  
(maybe a couple of hundred acres?) and provide an endowment to  
maintain it! Shoot, they probably take in enough money in one  
afternoon to take care of that small expense.

Bill Barber

On Nov 20, 2006, at 2:17 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Re: texas zephyr
>
> Posted by: "Bob Webber" no17@comcast.net   rsgrzw
>
> Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:36 pm (PST)
>
> *IF* there is anything left of any use. And, you would then have to
> be concerned about finding a museum willing and able to take it. Not
> just the initial donation, but the everyday maintenance and
> upkeep. Be sure to add that in the donation request. Then you'd
> have to find a museum with space. Note that many museums have a
> similar policy to that of the Illinois Railway Museum - that is if
> something comes in, something goes out (or gets scrapped). Usually,
> it's a like for like type of thing. That also narrows the field.
>
> Things of this nature - donations of equipment - are often not as
> simple as saying "Here, take it". One look at what has happened to
> the collection from the Santa Fe at the California State RR Museum is
> an indication of that. There are a lot of cars and locomotives that
> might be saved if that were the case, but saved to what end? To be
> eventually scrapped anyway? There are finite resources and finite
> known sources of income. Expenses keep going up every day. Farm land
> that surrounds the Illinois Railway Museum - where there actually
> *IS* farm land -is going for a LOT more than it was 5 years ago -
> and, for those of you who haven't been around there recently, the
> number of new developments from the I-90 interchange to Union and
> beyond is unbelievable. What that means - as one example of one
> institution - is greater costs than ever, in many forms. And, if you
> think you electric bill is high, think how high one might be running
> a trolley car around.
>
> Donating a train (should one still exist - would be the fulfillment
> of a lot of dreams, no doubt. But, let's be a bit honest here. The
> Mark Twain Zephyr sits rotting away. Those three cars in the Black
> Hills are not getting any younger. There are more than a few other
> candidates for preservation in the US. I for one would love to see a
> dome car at the IRM, for one example (or the CRM). BUT, as I say,
> costs are an important factor to consider. As are museum
> requirements for accession.
>
> At 06:52 PM 11/19/2006, Stephen J. Levine wrote:
> >T'would be a very nice gesture for the Saudi's to donate their
> >trains to a museum here.
>
> Bob Webber



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