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RE: [CBQ] New Pullman Cars Comparison

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] New Pullman Cars Comparison
From: Bob Webber <zephyr1@ameritech.net>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 08:44:49 -0600
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They will (look compatible) - except you will have to modify the trucks 
(and likely the windows) of the Walthers cars.  The trucks (and the 
subsequent height issue) is a problem on the Walthers cars.  Not an 
insurmountable one ( in terms of the height anyway, you just have to make 
some manual adjustments).  However, if you look at the two cars from some 
angles, the width of the trucks DO stick out.   The windows, when viewed 
from some angles are very obvious.

Let's face it - the two will be far more compatible than any other two 
variations you have options for - by far.  I believe Tom Madden will have 
the comparison up on his web page at some point soon. The Riv cars are way 
off, as are the Bachmann.  Brass cars have the issues of weight and in some 
cases trucks and (just plain) wrong details.

As far as I know, and the plan numbers Walthers has given to date seem to 
indicate it - the 12-1, 14 section, 8-1-2section are the same plans.  The 
diner ( NYC) the coach (B&O) and the obs are not copied in the Branchline line.


At 07:59 AM 12/6/2004, you wrote:

>Your reference to the availability of many of the same cars from both
>suppliers is what prompted my initial inquiry to the list.  By the way,
>I meant to also ask if those who have cars from both suppliers or have
>seen the cars from both feel a mix of these cars from both Branchline
>and Walthers would look compatible with each other?
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Webber [mailto:zephyr1@ameritech.net]
>Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:36 AM
>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CBQ] New Pullman Cars Comparison
>
>
>
>         One thing I failed to mention - Walthers has the superior
>interior (though
>         has crappy "glass), and the body is difficult t o disassemble).
>
>         BTW, they are doing at least 4 of the same cars, which is really
>
>         frustrating at this point...given the variety and the
>possibilities out
>         there, especially in terms of cars that could have been of use
>for the
>         Pullman Pool of post 1948 time frame.
>
>
>         At 10:57 PM 12/3/2004, you wrote:
>
>         >With the Walthers cars, you will have to take the effort to
>ensure that the
>         >paint scheme and trucks (and other details) are accurate for
>the car.  That
>         >isn't the case with the Branchline models.  Walthers cars are
>being sold
>         >with names (in decals) that do not match the cars as modeled
>and include
>         >"fantasy" schemes - so it is incumbent upon the modeler to
>ensure he/she is
>         >making the right choice (assuming it is important to that
>individual).  The
>         >Branchline cars are correct as far as paint scheme, name and
>prototype are
>         >concerned.  They are also correct in terms of details such as
>air
>         >conditioning underbody details (something that won't be the
>case with the
>         >Walthers cars).  The trucks are another source of concern on
>the Walthers
>         >kits as they are not accurate reproductions of the appropriate
>trucks for
>         >the given cars.
>         >
>         >All of which comes down to where you want your convenience.  Do
>you want to
>         >spend the time on the front end or the back end?  Or, do you
>care?  If you
>         >don't really care about the detail differences, then a Pullman
>is a Pullman
>         >is a Pullman and you won't care that the name is not correct
>for a given
>         >car, or that the car represents an air conditioned car but has
>a non-air
>         >conditioned car name, or has early trucks, or has trucks that
>are too wide,
>         >or that has one kind of air conditioning when the prototype car
>had another.
>         >
>         >The real question boils down to: how far do you want to go in
>terms of
>         >accuracy and how willing are you to accept convenience over
>         >accuracy?    Not that the Walthers cars are not accurate - once
>you pin
>         >down what they are and detail them accordingly after the fact.
>Neither is
>         >meant as criticism, just as a measuring stick.
>         >
>         >At 09:59 PM 12/3/2004, you wrote:
>         >
>         > >I've seen both and I like both. I believe you'll end up
>buying both as
>         > >they each have cars the other doesn't .For the ones they both
>have, I'd by
>         > >Walther's. John Trulson
>         > >   ----- Original Message -----
>         > >   From: Myers, Scott V.<mailto:svmyers@southernco.com>
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>         > >   Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:26 AM
>         > >   Subject: [CBQ] New Pullman Cars Comparison
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>         > >   With both Branchline and Walthers now producing the
>Pullman cars, what
>         > >   are people's thoughts as to the pros and cons of each.  I
>am interested
>         > >   in obtaining these cars and see that the list price is
>similar, but have
>         > >   not seen either car in person.  How do they compare in
>appearance and
>         > >   performance (smooth rolling ability)?
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