BRHSLIST
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [BRHSlist] Questions On Terms

To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Questions On Terms
From: Paul/Celine Kossart <kozys@t...>
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:03:00 -0500
In-reply-to: <1029538802.818.52885.m12@yahoogroups.com>
At 06:00 PM 8/16/02, you wrote:

Here's what my old memory tells me regarding some of your questions. My
operating days go back to 1950's and early 60's before a lot of the changes
were made, but I'll be glad to stand corrected.

PHP Packing House Products.....Hides, Tallow, etc.
Dead Freight...Anything other than Perishable, TOFC, Autos, Auto Parts etc.
Could be such items as lumber, coal, sand, cement. etc.

OK, so far so good . . . Thanks!

S.O.T. Only thing I can relate this to is South Omaha Terminal. This
switching road served the Packing Houses in South Omaha. If this (SOT)
applied to an Omaha Bound train that's probably it it means.

Pete, as it turns out you look to be dead on about this. I went back into the book, and on page 3, under train No. 60, listed as Omaha - South Omaha - Galesburg - Chicago, and specifically under the South Omaha section it says, "Receives meat and PHP from: South Omaha Terminal, other connections & local packers". Directly under that are listed cutoff times for "S.O.T," "UP", "Others".

A&C Mixed ?????

I believe I may have found the meaning for this - on page one under "Grouping Codes" there is a designation called "Denver Groups". Under that is "Denver A", "Denver B", and "Denver C", along with a description of what car destinations comprise each. Not sure, I'm just ASSuming, but looks to be in the ball park.

Connections....=Cars to be interchanged to other roads
Grouping = Blocks or blocking
TOFC Seems like TOFC could be placed anywhere in the block for that
station..unless perhaps it was to be placed next to the engine or waycar to
expedite switching at the location these cars are destined to. It could also
be a function of which end of the train was to be "worked---switched" at a
particular destination. Could also be a function of the TOFC being kept
where it could be watched either from head end or rear end...(remember
waycars).
Consist is a list of the train by individual car..Normally starts with the
rear end.
In the "olden days" a consist was usually thrown off by the conductor at the
first open station out of the initial terminal. The operator at said open
station would send the consist by telegraph to the final terminal to be used
by the yardmaster in planning the switching of the train.

Pete Hegpeth


Pete, I appreciate your help clearing some of this up for me and taking the time to put in a post. Once again, thanks for the assistance.


Paul Kossart - Peru, Illinois, USA
Modeling the CB&Q & fictional Illiniwek River Valley area in the 1960's.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Serving Agriculture and Industry in the Illiniwek River Valley since 1904."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>