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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Re: Basic reading
From: John Mitchell <cbqrr47@y...>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 15:39:33 -0800 (PST)
In-reply-to: <a05g17+pn0s@e...>
Sorry, but "line ups" were not used exactly this way.
It is true, that a line up was used to tell track car
operators when and where to expect trains and engines,
but the dispatchers used a system of train sheets to
keep track of the whereabouts of trains based on
"OS"(on sheet, not out of station as is sometimes
reported) reports from train order operators. Train
orders were first written in "Train Order Books" by
the dispatchers before being transmitted to the train
order operators for delivery the "C&E", i.e. the
conductor and engineer. As each station repeated the
train order, the dispatcher underlined it in the book,
after which if it had been repeated correctly, it was
made "complete" and it could be delivered. The CD did
give lists of trains for the territory of the trick
dispatchers, but they were not called "Line ups".
John D. Mitchell, Jr.
--- liljop <wulrich@a...> wrote:
> --- In BRHSlist@y..., "Florian Griessenboeck"
> <florian@v...> wrote:
> > Where can I find basic information about how the
> Railroad was 
> operated in
> > the pre CTC era? There are a lot of things I don't
> understand. How 
> was the
> > dispaching done, did every tower exactly know
> which train would 
> came in next
> > and what had the train crews to decide by
> themselves, ect. Is there 
> any
> > standard reading to teach a greenhorn like me?
> > Have a merry Christmas!
> > Florian Griessenboeck
> 
> 
> herr griessenboeck, grossgot,
> 
> 
> will briefly answer you question on dispatching. am
> sure there are 
> many list members who will answer in greater detail.
> 
> must assume you are asking about 'older railroading'
> by refering to 
> pre ctc operations. dispatching was done on a
> division basis. each 
> division had a chief dispatcher and shift
> dispatchers who were 
> responsable for their part of territory within the
> division. the 
> chief dispatcher would issue lineups, lists of
> trains that were going 
> to run over his division. these were issued several
> times a day, 
> morning lineup, afternoon lineup and evening lineup.
> this is how the 
> railroad knew what trains were going to run, what
> engine number of 
> the train, so it could be identified and
> approximately what time it 
> would run. anyone who was involved with the railroad
> that was going 
> to be on or around the track needed to know this.
> the foremen of 
> track workers, signalmen, etc., would continually
> check with the 
> dispatchers or the operators, the men who worked in
> the towers and 
> stations, as to the location of the trains on the
> lineup.
> 
> as to what decisions the enginemen/trainmen made,
> think there was 
> only one decision to be made, operate the train
> according to the 
> "book", the 'burlington lines rules of the operating
> department.' if 
> you errored and you were fired, you were fired for
> violating one of 
> these rules listed in this book.
> 
> can not recommend any books, only one can think of
> is "the railroad, 
> what it is and what it does" or a title similar to
> this. am sure that 
> many list members will be able to recommend
> something for you.
> 
> hope this will answer, briefly, some of your
> questions until those 
> with more knowledge will respond to your inquiry.
> 
> warren
> 
> 


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