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1. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Stuart Forsyth moretrainmail@gmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 06:56:20 -0800; The screen print that Randy posted earlier today of the black cars herald didnt come out very well, but you can see a larger copy (917 KB) of the whole photo at http://collections.carli.illinois.edu; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00102.html (18,346 bytes)
2. [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Randy Danniel milepost206@mchsi.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 17:43:19 -0600; Greetings, After reading this thread and taking some time to evaluate the photo in Photoshop, I think I might have to agree with Rupert based on taking measurements of the individual RGB color channe; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00186.html (13,325 bytes)
3. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:08:56 -0500; February 2, 2016 Randy - BRILLIANT! - Louis Louis Zadnichek II Fairhope, AL In a message dated 2/1/2016 5:43:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes: Greetings, After reading this t; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00187.html (18,056 bytes)
4. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:33:17 +1300; Randy Thanks for investigating this photo, especially as it tends to support the possibility that, for some unknown reason, this car was painted in a colour other than standard mineral red. The "blac; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00189.html (13,081 bytes)
5. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Tom Kline' TKline@airmail.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 20:49:21 -0600; I’ve been enjoying the thread and appreciate the brain power put to work to flesh out all the interesting possibilities that may have caused the photo to look the way it does. I’d like to; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00192.html (18,112 bytes)
6. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "jeralbin@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 03 Feb 2016 06:36:17 -0800; I think most are neglecting the fact that during the time the photo was taken, Orthochromatic photographic emulsion film was the only game in town. Ortho emulsions were sensitive to only blue and gre; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00193.html (13,910 bytes)
7. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Randy Gordon-Gilmore randy@prototrains.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 20:52:07 -0600; Randy, an RGB scan of a B/W print contains no useful information relative to a grayscale scan. The color separation was not there to begin with. The negative or print contains pure density informatio; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00195.html (12,974 bytes)
8. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "milepost206@mchsi.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 03 Feb 2016 21:22:45 -0800; Hi Randy, The subject scan is a RGB scan of a green sepia tone color image. If a RGB scan is made of a pure grayscale negative, slide or photo I would agree with your statement regarding channel valu; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00197.html (15,014 bytes)
9. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "jeralbin@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 04 Feb 2016 02:03:26 -0800; These Pictures Show the Difference Between PANCHROMATIC Film and Ordinary Film Early Ad for Panchromatic Film "Pan" Brings Out Color Values Never Before Possible in Black and White Pictures C1997 by; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00198.html (21,340 bytes)
10. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "milepost206@mchsi.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: 04 Feb 2016 09:01:55 -0800; These Pictures Show the Difference Between PANCHROMATIC Film and Ordinary Film Early Ad for Panchromatic Film "Pan" Brings Out Color Values Never Before Possible in Black and White Pictures C1997 by; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00199.html (22,721 bytes)
11. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 17:40:21 +0000; These Pictures Show the Difference Between PANCHROMATIC Film and Ordinary Film Early Ad for Panchromatic Film "Pan" Brings Out Color Values Never Before Possible in Black and White Pictures C1997 by; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00201.html (33,324 bytes)
12. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "JK public@redtower.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 21:28:51 -0500; You'll never hear my cry uncle when it comes to discussing how to restore old photos... :) Cheers! Jan Kohl www.castlegraphics.com -- Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: ht; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00205.html (12,421 bytes)
13. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 17:59:19 +1300; The screen print that Randy posted earlier today of the “black” car’s herald didn’t come out very well, but you can see a larger copy (917 KB) of the whole photo at http://col; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00206.html (18,080 bytes)
14. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:37:55 +0000; Yes, you'd have to be blind not to see the difference between the white Burlington Route lettering and the color of the border stripe on the herald, and I have no explanation for that. I'm still tryi; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00207.html (23,136 bytes)
15. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:51:21 +0000; http://durhammuseum.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15426coll1/id/21910/rec/7 Here's another interesting photo to study, essentially a 1920s view comparable to the famous 1940 view of O; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00208.html (22,233 bytes)
16. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 08:49:04 +1300; Hol According to the WIU information data, the post card is dated 18 October 1910, so that gives us an end date. I’ve e-mailed the Bushnell Museum seeking further information about the post car; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00209.html (15,925 bytes)
17. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:41:27 -0500; February 5, 2016 Rupert - Please see if the Museum has any other Q photographs that they could scan and share with us. Thanks - Louis Louis Zadnichek II Fairhope, AL In a message dated 2/5/2016 1:49:; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00210.html (14,121 bytes)
18. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 10:10:14 +1300; Will do. Have you checked out the photos on Carli? Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] Sent: 06 February 2016 09:41 To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00211.html (16,140 bytes)
19. RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 17:53:02 +1300; Hol Judging by the arch in the boxcars’ floors, they have just had their rods tightened as well as being repainted, or is that a optical illusion? Rupert Gamlen Auckland NZ From: CBQ@yahoogroup; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00213.html (18,916 bytes)
20. Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory (score: 1): Author: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>; Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:46:47 +0000; Rupert: No, that's no optical illusion; the bodies of the cars are indeed arched slightly from having the truss rods tightened, And that would have been a routine part of any overhaul back in the era; /archives/BRHSLIST/2016-02/msg00214.html (25,432 bytes)

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