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Re: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory

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From: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 15:51:21 +0000
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http://durhammuseum.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15426coll1/id/21910/rec/7


Here's another interesting photo to study, essentially a 1920s view comparable to the famous 1940 view of O-5-A 5629 with a string of new XM-32 boxcars at Havelock.  This one depicts O-1-A 4940 with a string of freshly shopped double-sheathed boxcars, most likely turned out by Plattsmouth (since Havelock was still strictly a locomotive shop at this time.  The photo can be dated to the period between 1923 when 4940 was delivered and 1925-26 when the Q began applying the full color Burlington Route herald to tenders.  The Mike doesn't have the "back porch" tender with which it was presumably delivered, so the longer underframe has already been swapped out with one from an O-3.  The difference between the white lettering of the boxcars and the imitation gold (don't know if it was a Dulux paint this early or not) of the locomotive and tender is particularly evident, and the black background of the heralds on the boxcars can also be distinguished from the mineral red of the carbodies.


Hol




From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Rupert & Maureen' gamlenz@ihug.co.nz [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 9:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Black Boxcar Theory
 
 

The screen print that Randy posted earlier today of the “black” car’s herald didn’t come out very well, but you can see a larger copy (917 KB) of the whole photo at http://collections.carli.illinois.edu/utils/ajaxhelper/?CISOROOT=wiu_digimgc&CISOPTR=1447&action=""> which you can then enlarge to at least 400%to get a good view of all the cars including the ballast cars.

Looking at the “black” car’s herald (and even allowing for the narrowness of the line) the border of the herald certainly appears to be a different colour to the white “Burlington Route” lettering.

Two other points of interest. At the bottom of the siding and just forward of the herald’s position is a curved logo that is similar to the one used by Haskell & Barker on their new cars. If that is a car builder’s logo then any paint job would be original as opposed to a repaint.

Secondly, there appear to be three lines of lettering on the top left corner of the end nearest the camera instead of the usual two lines. (Can’t remember exactly when the road numbers/letters changed from the left to the right but the XA-3’s built in 1910 were lettered on the left side)

Just in passing, the post card on which this photo appeared was dated October 1910 but may have been printed much earlier. Unless someone has a direct contact with Bushnell Museum (which owns the post card) or WIU (which hosts the photo), I’ll try and find out some more about the post card, such as original date, photographer, publisher, etc.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ



 



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