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Re: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1
From: "Bott, Eric H." <eric.h.bott@outlook.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 05:42:52 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1

Ray:

 

Thank you.  I got a separate reply from Dennis that identified the photo as one that was in Corbin’s book.  The caption in the book says it was a builder’s photo.  Given that the builder was Baldwin, I think it’s a pretty sure bet that the boiler jacket was a medium gray, but I’d agree that the paint schedule was GN’s, with gray substituted for Glacier green.

 

In other fora, one can start a raging flaming session as to whether Key’s gray boiler jacket on their CS-21 SP AC-4 model was authentic or bogus.  But there’s a builder’s photo of an AC-4 (at Baldwin’s plant, obviously) with gray boiler in Erie Power by Stauffer.  Not the same road number as the Key model I have, darn it—and I have NO idea why Stauffer included an AC-4 photo in Erie Power—but it’s a fascinating and beautiful livery, even if it only lasted through break-in on the SP.

 

Most modelers eschew delivery paint schemes because the locos that got them rarely kept them for long.  But some of them sure were eye candy.  I liked one on an ACL Q-1 so much…  Well, you can see for yourself.  And Yes, Virginia, that is the ugliest tender ever erected.  Except maybe by the French.  It’s a close call.

 

Thanks again!

 

-Eric

 

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From: Ray Bedard
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:35 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1

 

I don't have an answer, but since these were also done for the Great Northern with green boiler jacket, I wonder if they delivered it to the Q the same way, and then the Q repainted them.

 

RAY

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Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 3:11 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1

 

I’m trying to figure out how to specify a paint job on a CB&Q T-1/T-1a.  The attached T-1a drawing intrigues me no end, as it seems to imply a colored boiler jacket, and a black enameled smokebox.  It doesn’t provide workable evidence for or against a Tuscan cab roof.  Even the cab sides and the Belpaire hips look ambiguous in this photo.

 

Anybody have concrete knowledge of the T-1 or T-1a livery, either at delivery, or just pre-1927?  Does anybody have knowledge of what comes after the “T-1” text below the road number on the cab side?

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

-Eric Bott

 

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From: Dennis C. Henry
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:58 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Budd Gallery Cars in non-Commuter Service

 

Tom,

A single Budd gallery car was carried eastbound on the Twin Zephyr
No. 22 on Saturday July 29, 1966.  It was the second to last car,
behind the regular consist as seen departing from St. Paul Union
Depot during the nationwide airline strike that summer.  See Disc #2
in my DVD album http://www.brasscarsides.com/#DVD in the chapter on St. Paul.

Dennis Henry




 

 

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