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The 1907 build date of the second batch of T-1s is right at the end of the rather routine use of Russia iron for boiler jackets, and Baldwin may have used some of the material still on hand for the engine in the builder's photo. But I'm sure the frugal Q didn't
specify it. And I agree that Glacier Green, if it was even in use by GN at that time, would not have been applied to what were essentially freight train pusher locomotives. Attached is an image of one of the three GN engines that were diverted to the Q at
Chicago. The view is in Creston, Iowa, on the way west to Havelock for renumbering and set-up. Also early photos of two of the three GN engines with their Q numbers. They have what started as glossy black boiler jackets but quickly became very dirty looking.
Hol
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q T-1
All-
I looked through all my locomotive file images and did not find what I was looking for. I seem to recall a closeup view of the cab of a T1.
It is unlikely that the boilers were ever painted a lighter color. Some of them (especially the ones diverted from the GN order) may have had Russian Iron jackets but soon got painted, The attached
photos show grimy weathered engines at any rate.
I don’t think they would have been green; a GNHS member would have to address when and what got the green paint.
Charlie Vlk
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I don't have an answer, but since these were also done for the Great Northern with green boiler jacket, I wonder if they delivered it to the Q the same way, and then the Q repainted them.
I’m trying to figure out how to specify a paint job on a CB&Q T-1/T-1a. The attached T-1a drawing intrigues me no end, as it seems to imply a colored boiler jacket, and a black enameled smokebox. It doesn’t provide workable evidence for or against a Tuscan
cab roof. Even the cab sides and the Belpaire hips look ambiguous in this photo.
Anybody have concrete knowledge of the T-1 or T-1a livery, either at delivery, or just pre-1927? Does anybody have knowledge of what comes after the “T-1” text below the road number on the cab side?
Thanks in advance for any help!
-Eric Bott
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From: Dennis C. Henry
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Budd Gallery Cars in non-Commuter Service
Tom,
A single Budd gallery car was carried eastbound on the Twin Zephyr
No. 22 on Saturday July 29, 1966. It was the second to last car,
behind the regular consist as seen departing from St. Paul Union
Depot during the nationwide airline strike that summer. See Disc #2
in my DVD album
http://www.brasscarsides.com/#DVD in the chapter on St. Paul.
Dennis Henry
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GN 1906 (CB&Q 4001), Creston, Iowa, 4-1908.jpg
Description: GN 1906 (CB&Q 4001), Creston, Iowa, 4-1908.jpg
CB&Q 4000, Beardstown, Ill., 1908 #2.jpg
Description: CB&Q 4000, Beardstown, Ill., 1908 #2.jpg
CB&Q 4002, Crawford, Neb., possibly, c. 1908, B&W.jpg
Description: CB&Q 4002, Crawford, Neb., possibly, c. 1908, B&W.jpg
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