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Re: Oscitrol Signal Lights, was [CBQ] E Unit Headlights

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Subject: Re: Oscitrol Signal Lights, was [CBQ] E Unit Headlights
From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2022 21:14:05 -0500
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Small clarification….the light was invented by a Chicago fireman and the company was financed by the Mars family.  The light pattern was a horizontally oriented figure eight .   I don’t know where the “triple eight” notion comes from.
Charlie Vlk


On Jun 14, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Michael Woodruff <mwoodruff54@gmail.com> wrote:


Worth a brief mention here (with an apology for going slightly off-topic), is that the Florida East Coast Railway was another user of Mars signal lights who later switched to Oscitrols on some of their units.  Why is this at least slightly relevant?  Because  FEC 435 was built 12/66 as CB&Q 173, and FEC 438 was built 2/68 as CB&Q 636, and both at one time sported Oscitrols.

FEC 435:

FEC 438:

These units have since had their Oscitrols removed, but both remain in daily service on the FEC - not bad for a pair of 50+ year old Q veterans.

mike woodruff
spokane


On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 2:23 PM Harold Krewer <HKRITS@hotmail.com> wrote:
A Mars signal light (made by the same Chicago family that invented and sold the Mars candy bar, BTW) is two lights (usually one white and one red, but two white was also an option) in a housing. The figure-8 sweep of the light beam is created by mounting the rear of the housing on offset cams driven by a motor. The front stays relatively steady while the rear goes around in an orbiting manner that makes the light beam oscillate.

The "figure 8" is made by having the housing make two vertical oscillations for every horizontal oscillation. Mars' main competitor, Pyle-National, made a similar unit called a "Gyralight." Its main difference is the motor drive system is simplified, rotating the unit around a single cam resulting in a circular or elliptical oscillation pattern. Metra is among the last users of Gyralights (indeed, any oscillating lights). They were also very popular on the SP and Rio Grande.

On the 9911A at IRM, there is a control box in the cab that allows the Engineer to not only select the white or red light, but to stop the motor from rotating the housing or "inch" it slowly into a certain position. This allowed the Mars light to be used as a normal headlight in the event the regular headlight failed. The white light would shut off and the red would automatically display (but keep oscillating) in the event of an emergency brake application to protect the head end of the train until flagging could be established.

On every U.S. E or F unit I'm aware of, the oscillating headlight was mounted in the upper casing for maximum visibility, with the standard headlight in the lower casing in the nose door. The only use of them outside the U.S. I'm aware of was by Canadian Pacific, who mounted a twin-beam unit pointed skyward on the roof of some FP7s. There was also a detachable auxiliary light used on the front door of both CN and CP RDC cars that oscillated, but I am not aware of who manufactured it.

Later on in the 60s and 70s, some railroads (like IC, C&O and Rock Island) replaced their motor-driven Mars lights with solid-state units that alternately flashed two sealed-beam lights aimed to cross each other's paths, giving the appearance of the light bean "sweeping" back and forth across the track. With no moving parts, maintenance costs were reduced. One of the brand names of such a device was Oscitrol.

BTW, pay NO attention to the Wikipedia entry for Mars lights, it is riddled with errors.

Hope this was helpful,

Harold Krewer
Causing More Problems Than He Solves Since 1961

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