Rich, You are correct. The E5s, E7s and at least the early E8s (if not all) were delivered with single headlight fixtures. These were changed to dual sealed beam headlight assemblies in the late 50s/early 60s, roughly around the same time as the nose stripes changing from black to red. There has been speculation that both changes may have occurred at the same time. The dual sealed beam headlights were two bulbs stacked vertically (although some RRs installed them horizontally). The entire assembly moved for the Mars light. Bulbs I believe were white with a red lens over the bottom of the two lights in the Mars assembly. In my Es, I've been using etched detail parts from KV Models. These fit into the opening in the shell/door in front of the bulbs. I use Microscale Micro Krystal Kleer to make a lens over the bottom Mars light and then paint it red. While this doesn't make the red light usable, it still looks right and the paint blocks the light so it looks prototypical when using the Mars light. I've attached a few photos showing this on one of my Proto E9s. http://kvmodels.com/kv-1004h/ Hope this helps! Bryan J. HowellSuperior, WI On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 10:04:29 AM CDT, Richard Gortowski via groups.io <rgortowski=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: Bill, I wasn't clear enough. It appears to me that, as delivered, the headlight had a single bulb. Sometime later, they switched to two bulbs. Is that a correct assumption? Some of my motors have a single bulb, and others have a casting for two separate bulbs. Looking through Bulletins 10 and 57, it appears that all of the as delivered E-5, E-7. and E-8's had single bulbs, but it's difficult to tell. Thanks, Rich G -----Original Message----- From: William Hirt <whirt@fastmail.com> To: CBQ@groups.io Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2022 9:36 am Subject: Re: [CBQ] E Unit Headlights Rich, The decoder will create the desired effect with either the LED or bulb you use. It is just setting the effect type in the decoder for that function. You only need one. This is one of the many good things that Proto 2000 did with their E units. With them being brass units, I would seriously consider adding a current keeper to the decoder install. I did this with my old Hallmark delrin chain drive Silver Charger I bought from Mike Spoor. The change in running performance now makes it equal to the best running plastic locomotives. Bill Hirt On 6/13/2022 11:58 AM, Richard Gortowski via groups.io wrote: We're starting to install sound decoders into my brass E units, and at the same time, we need to install the headlights. After looking at Bulletins 10 and 57, it appears that the E-5, E-7. and at least the 1949/50 orders of E-8's were delivered with a Mars light on the top and a single beam headlamp in the lower casing. As far as I can tell, they weren't changed to the dual beams until sometime in the 50's/60's. Is that correct? I know that we have had discussions about the Mars lights, but I can't recall the details. Were these two separate bulbs, side by side that alternated to create the "triple eight" pattern? If so. both white bulbs? In a vertical or horizontal position, as delivered? Thanks for any clarification, Rich G -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#63885): https://groups.io/g/CBQ/message/63885 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/91731097/703214 Group Owner: CBQ+owner@groups.io Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/CBQ/leave/1544929/703214/691670059/xyzzy [archives@nauer.org] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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