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Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Ballast car

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Ballast car
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---- HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com> wrote: 
> Greg:
> 
> No, the FW&D never had any ballast cars of this type; the only hopper-type 
> ballast cars they ever had were all-steel and considerably shorter.  Go with 
> the CB&Q initials and number!
> 
> Hol
> 
> ________________________________
> From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Greg Udolph 
> <gregudolph@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 10:51 AM
> To: CBQ@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Ballast car
> 
> Louis,
>   Did the FW&D ever have any of these cars? I always like to add a little 
> Texas to them, if possible. Sometimes it takes a bit of "creative licensing."
> Thanks,
> Greg
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:45 AM Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io 
> <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io<mailto:aol.com@groups.io>> wrote:
> June 3, 2019
> 
> Greg - Excellent!  Now that you've found the ballast car's original number, 
> you can repaint it on the sides when finished restoring.  I have two other 
> images to share with you.  Attached are in-service images of CB&Q ballast 
> hoppers downgraded to beet service Nos. 221574 and 221660, sisters to your 
> car.
> 
> Don't worry about having first painted the car Chinese red. That color will 
> be a good undercoat and preservative for when you put the final coat of 
> mineral red on to make the car look authentic. Please share some images of 
> your restored ballast hopper with us when finished.  Best Regards - Louis
> 
> Louis Zadnichek II
> Fairhope, AL
> 
> In a message dated 6/3/2019 8:05:18 AM Central Standard Time, 
> gregudolph@gmail.com<mailto:gregudolph@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> All,
>   Attached is a Dead of Gift for the ballast car and some of our other CB&Q 
> equipment. The car number was originally CB&Q 221674. Hope this helps narrow 
> down the search.
> Greg
> 
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 11:29 PM Tom Kline <tkline@airmail.net> wrote:
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> 
> 
> Looking through my files I found an image (albeit poor) of the CB&Q car in 
> question at the Texas State Railroad in Rusk, TX that I took in 1984 on a 
> lousy rainy day.  Unfortunately it’s horribly grainy and doesn’t offer much 
> detail to the lettering questions since most of it is gone by this date, but 
> I thought I’d offer it to the group in case it might help someone.  I was 
> hoping I could glean a car number off it but as you can see on the upper car 
> end it has been painted out, probably by the railroad prior to the sale to 
> Southwest Car Parts.   In a color photo I have showing it from a distance the 
> color of the car looks like boxcar red.
> 
> 
> 
> Using my photo editing platform I was able to zoom in on the remaining 
> lettering and here’s what I found:  Starting at the far (A end) of the car 
> working towards us:  “For Beet Loading Only” stencil, dimensional data 
> stencil (two lines), more dimensional data stencil (two lines), “For Beet 
> Loading Only” stencil, Repack Data BN (and unreadable location code), 8-17-70 
> second line, and wheel inspection dot.
> 
> 
> 
> Hopefully Greg can find an official document to fill in all the other 
> questions.
> 
> 
> 
> For what it’s worth I hope this helps!
> 
> Tom Kline
> 
> Houston, Texas
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> From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rupert Gamlen
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 8:15 PM
> To: CBQ@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Ballast car
> 
> 
> 
> Louis
> 
> I suspect that your photo was a company photo, taken at Havelock, of the 
> first of the class. Just a slight discrepancy between the date of the photo 
> and the construction date on the car.
> 
> Were the wood sides a wartime economy measure?
> 
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
> 
> 
> 
> From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io
> Sent: Monday, 3 June 2019 4:57 a.m.
> To: CBQ@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Ballast car
> 
> 
> 
> June 2, 2019
> 
> 
> 
> Greg - I can contribute the attached three-quarter side image of CB&Q 221500 
> taken in March 1943.
> 
> 
> 
> What is the original car number for the ballast hopper your group has 
> restored? Best Regards - Louis
> 
> 
> 
> Louis Zadnichek II
> 
> Fairhope, AL
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