Hello everyone,
The MODELflex Imitation Aluminum was not matched to the BRHS color chips, I
have the original dry plate standard that the color was made from at DuPont.
Well I have half of the plate as my friend at DuPont had the other piece. I
took my sample to the Badger Chemist and after lighting the color for scale
we came up with the MODELflex Imitation Aluminum. This would be a fresh out
of the paint shop color not a faded color. After doing a lot of research on
this color I found out that it faded very very fast after several washing,
the gray color disappeared and all you had left was a white shade. Imitation
Aluminum was used on at least 15 other railroads beside the CB&Q. MODELflex
made 3 CB&Q grays one for the F units, one for the blackbird scheme and one
for the redbird scheme.
Everyone see colors a little different, what one person see as right another
would say it's wrong, to each his own I say. I live in St. Louis so the Q is
not as popular here as in Chicago, I use to see fist fights break out in
hobby shops because two guys were fighting over what shade Frisco orange
was, now their's a can of worms you don't want to open up. I try to make
accurate colors, if you use our paint we thank you and if you don't I hope
you find another paint manufacture that makes the color you like.
Thanks
John Lee MMR
Hobby Consultant
Badger Air Brush Company
Visit us @ www.badgerairbrush.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gordon Smith kc2bw@optonline.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Painting question for a friend
> --I thought Modelflex Imitation Aluminum was matched to the BRHS color
> chips.
>
> Yes they did. And the Dupont Duco
> numbers. I figured that John could
> comment on that.
>
> --I don't know what Tru Color used.
>
> I do...As I said the same chips.
>
> --I remember the previous threads
> about it being dark when new and
> bleaching out in the sun.
>
> Of course! All paint is faded from
> being in the sun.
>
> --The goal of modelers seems to be
> to reproduce colors that 'look
> right to them', and who can argue
> with that logic.
>
> And that is why there will never be
> agreement.
>
> Gordon
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>> I thought Modelflex Imitation Aluminum was matched to the BRHS color
>> chips. I don't know what Tru Color used. I remember the previous threads
>> about it being dark when new and bleaching out in the sun. The consensus
>> (maybe just majority) was that Imitation Aluminum was too dark out of the
>> bottle. To me, it has a greenish tinge. The problem with all prototype
>> color chips is that don't scale to models very well because of lighting
>> variables, not to mention color perception variables, and the effects of
>> age and weathering. The goal of modelers seems to be to reproduce colors
>> that 'look right to them', and who can argue with that logic!
>>
>> Nelson Moyer
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 9:35 AM
>> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Painting question for a friend
>>
>> YES!!!! The color from True Color
>> was done from the Q societies paint
>> chips. As has been discussed in the
>> past...when photographed in bright
>> sunlight the color is very lite.
>> This is because of an additive in
>> the paint and slight over exposure.
>> If you look at pics in the books
>> that are in the snow, the gray
>> color is there. John Lee can
>> comment on the Badger color. Those
>> comments should be in the archives
>> of this list. There will never be
>> agreement on the color that
>> satisfies everyone. All 28 of my
>> F's are done with the Badger
>>
>> Gordon.
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> NO! Model Flex Imitation Aluminum is not even close to the light gray
>>> color of CB&Q F units. It's much too dark. I haven't seen the new Tru
>>> Color paint for graybacks, so I can't opine about that. A Paint Shop
>>> article in Model Railroader many years ago recommended using reefer
>>> white with a few drops of black. Among the commercially painted F units,
>>> the Intermountain FT units seem to have the best paint color. The
>>> Walthers P2K models are yellowish, which is unacceptable. I don't have
>>> any Stewart/Bowser F units for comparison. If the Tru Color version is
>>> correct, I'll repaint and decal my six P2K F units, they're that bad.
>>>
>>> Nelson Moyer
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2017 12:13 AM
>>> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Painting question for a friend
>>>
>>> The Gray Backs are the F units.
>>> That would be Model Flex 193 CB&Q
>>> Imitation Aluminum or True Color
>>> 330 Gray #2 for F units.
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A model railroader friend here in
>>>> the Twin Cities asked me if I
>>>> knew which paint would work
>>>> for the CB&Q grey backs. Since we
>>>> haven't done any painting, I
>>>> couldn't help him out. Does
>>>> anyone have any suggestion that I
>>>> could forward on?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>> Scott Stearns - Zumbrota, MN
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>> Posted by: Gordon Smith <kc2bw@optonline.net>
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>>> Posted by: Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@hotmail.com>
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> Posted by: Gordon Smith <kc2bw@optonline.net>
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