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Re: [CBQ] Interesting paint job,etc

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Interesting paint job,etc
From: "Richard Townsend richtownsend@netscape.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:08:48 -0500
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The lime was used as described in this 1920 article (it also was the source of the carbon dioxide gas mentioned in the article, in addition to the lime):
 
Process Explanation
The beets are flumed from the storage bins to the factory, washed thoroughly, and elevated to the top of the factory where they are weighed by automatic scales and delivered to the Beet Slicers.  In the slicers the beets are cut into thin slices known as Cosettes by knives revolving either in a horizontal plane as in the Kilby slicer or in a vertical plane as in the French or Maguin slicer.  The cossettes after leaving the slicers are placed in Cells or vessels holding from two and one half to seven tons of the cossettes and water is circulated around them.  Twelve or fourteen of these cells are connected as a Battery in such a manner that the water passes from one cell to another beginning at the cell that contains the most nearly exhausted cossettcs and finally being drawn off as Diffusion Juice or Raw Juice from the cell in which the new cossettes are added.  The exhausted cossettes when free from all but a small percentage of sugar are known as Pulp and this product is used as a cattle feed.
The above in brief outlines the manner of extracting the sugar from the beet and the next step in the process consists in purifying the extracted juice which may be outlined as follows. The diffusion or raw juice is sent through heaters to a station known as the First Carbonation where Milk of Lime, which is usually lime slaked by a dilute sugar solution, or Saccharate Milk is added and the mixture is then treated with Carbon Dioxide C02 gas until most of the lime has been precipitated as calcium carbonate.  After the carbonation has been completed to the point desired the whole mixture is heated either in the tanks or by being pumped through heaters and is sent to the First Filter Presses where the precipitated calcium carbonate and the impurities contained therein, called First Lime Cake, are removed . The purified juice from the first filter presses is known as First Press Juice and is pumped to Second Carbonation where most of the remaining lime is precipitated by means of carbon dioxide gas.  From second carbonation the juice is sent to the Second Filter Presses where the precipitated calcium carbonate is removed as Second Lime Cake and the filtrate known as Second Press Juice is sent to Third Saturation where it is treated with Sulphur Dioxide SO2 gas.  
After treatment with the sulphur dioxide gas and a further filtration through the Thin Juice Filters the juice which is known as Third Press Juice enters the Evaporators where it is concentrated to a syrup containing about 50% sugar. The juice leaving the evaporators called Evaporator Thick Juice goes to the Blow Ups at which station melted sugar is mixed with it and the mixture is treated with sulphur dioxide gas filtered through the Thick Juice Filters and becomes after filtration a syrup known as Blow Up Thick Juice.  The blow up thick juice is drawn into the White Vacuum Pan where it is concentrated to such a point that the sugar contained crystallizes out and the whole mass of crystals and liquor surrounding them is called White Massecuite. The white massecuite is placed in Centrifugals where the crystals are retained on a screen and the syrup surrounding the crystals passes through and becomes known as High Green.  Since some of the syrup remains on the crystals it is necessary to wash them with a spray of hot water and the syrup made by this washing is called High Wash.  
The washed crystals are dried by air in the Granulators and sacked as Granulated Sugar while the high wash goes back to enter the next white pan and the high green is drawn into the Remelt or Raw Pan and concentrated to such a point that crystallization takes place.  This mass of sugar crystals and the syrup surrounding them is known as Remelt Massecuite and the crystals are separated from the syrup by centrifgual force in the same manner as was done with the white massecuite.  The syrup spun off is known as Low Green, the washed crystals are called Remelt Sugar, and the syrup obtained during the washing is designated as Low Wash.
The remelt sugar is melted up and added to the thick juice at the blow ups as stated before the low wash goes back to the next remelt strike boiled and the low green is sent out of the factory as Molasses which is either used for cattle feed or sent to the Steffen Process for further sugar extraction .  If the molasses is to be worked in the Steffen Process it is sent to the Steffen House and diluted to a solution known as Cooler Solution containing from 5 to 7 per cent sugar.  The cooler solution is drawn into the Coolers where finely divided lime is added which combines with sugar forming an insoluble sugar lime compound.  The material leaving the coolers is pumped to the Saccharate Presses where the insoluble lime sugar compound known as Saccharate Cake is retained while the non sugars which are still in solution pass out with the Waste Water to the sewer or potash reservoir. The saccharate cake is diluted with a mixture of juice and wash water from the first carbonation presses forming Saccharate Milk which is sent to first carbonation.
Simple, eh?
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 
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From: qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Jan 26, 2017 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Interesting paint job,etc

 
Thanks Hol,

This begs the question as to how the limestone was used in the sugar beet processing.
Sorry if you covered it in BB32. My copy is packed away.

Leo

On Jan 26, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
Leo:

There are photos of similar trains coming down the branch from the quarry to Fort Collins on pages 48-49 of BB 32 on sugar beets.  Richard is correct as to location and destination.  The cars are 52'6" mill gons built for the C&S at Havelock in 1965.  (Yes, it's odd for a bulk commodity such as limestone to be hauled in flat-bottom cars to facilities that had no car dumpers, meaning the liestone had to be unloaded by clamshell, which is exactly what Great Western Sugar did at their "factories.") And the SD9 wears diagonal Scotchlite delineator stripes on its side sills as was C&S standard practice in the 1960s, as the C&S considered the SDs as road switchers and the Burlington standard called for Scotchlite stripes on the side sills of all switchers.

Hol 



From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Richard Townsend richtownsend@netscape.net [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 10:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Interesting paint job,etc
 
 
That's a C&S SD-9 and the location looks like Loveland, Colorado. I'm guessing the cargo is limestone from the Ingleside quarries, likely bound for a Great Western sugar factory.
 
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
 
 
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Sent: Wed, Jan 25, 2017 7:18 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Interesting paint job,etc

 
Take a look at item 371847974178 on eBay. That's an interesting paint job on the SD. Given the unit # I'm guessing this is a C&S photo location ?

Then look at the train. Are those some type of air dump gons? Don't look like standard mill gons. And what's the lading ? It's too large for ballast, too small for rip rap. Is it some type of steel mill slag moving for crushing ?

Leo Phillipp


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