Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Overnight Heaters

["Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

When I was in the Military..USA Transportation Corps at Ft. Eustis, VA in 1959 I was assigned to TRECOM..Transportation Research and Engineering Command in the Rail Division.  At the time I was there the rail division was completely devoid of funds for ANY PROJECTS so there we were. A Lieutenant Colonel in Charge...about 4 Civilian engineer types..High GS ratings.  An office manager a Male Secretry named Max and 2 Second Lieutenants of which I was one.

I was assigned to one of the "engineer" guys and for lack of anything else to do he assigned me to do a study of  "The Winteriization of the 44 Ton Diesel switching locomotive.  These projects were known as "Staff Studies"...I "fiddled and piddled for 4 months messing around with this thing for lack of anything else to do.  I completed it just before I left active duty in October.

My "supervisor" assured me that my work would be submitted for official publication and that my name would be listed as "Assistant Project Engineer".  Well, sure enough, a year or so after I left I received in an official envelope the finished published work complete with long government number and bound in a yellow binder.  Those of you with military experience will recall what these things looked like.

I still have the document "among my souvenirs"...

The sum total of my efforts was the recommendation that the winterization would consist of the installation of a "Hot Start" heater system on these engines.  That system was...is...akin to what John has described.  The heater just provided a heat source, much like your home water heater and the cooling water in the engine would circulate by its own natural circulation away from the heat source and back through the system..There was no forced circulation unless the engine was running.l  They did not affect the lube oil system by any direct heat, just whatever the warm (er) water would provide to the entire cooling system.

If anybody wants to see my official contribution to the cause, let me know and I'll bring the document to the annual meeting at North Platte this fall.

Pete

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From: 'John D. Mitchell, Jr.' cbqrr47@yahoo.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2015 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Overnight Heaters

 

These were not what were used on the GP-7's and GP-9's. I believe the early heaters were made by Vapor, but at this late date, I'm not sure anymore, but they were basically water heaters, i.e. they heated the block water and indirectly heated the lube oil. I know they did nothing for fuel oil problems.
 

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From: "RWA325@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Overnight Heaters

 

Dave,

 

Here is a link for the HotStart layover heating system used by BNSF et al.

http://www.hotstart.com/en/home/products/locomotive-products/

 

I hope this helps.

 

Bob Arthur,

Princeton, NC

 

 

In a message dated 7/1/2015 6:38:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

 

Can anyone help me to understand the function of the "overnight heaters" located on the fireman's side of the cab, long hood end, on "Q" GP 7's and GP 9's?  Is it to keep the diesel fuel from turning to gel during the extremely cold weather?   If so, does the diesel fuel circulate through the heater box to keep from turning to gel?  I've had no luck finding information on-line.

 

Thanks,  Dave Sarther      Tucson, AZ

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