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From: "Gordon Smith kc2bw@optonline.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 07:54:27 -0400
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Hol...Looking at the roster in the new caboose book,  it says the trucks were applied in 1960 and the side doors in 1963. Is the book wrong? I would like to see the allied truck pics! thanks
 
Gordon
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q Waycar Questions


 

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The 14151, it should be noted, was equipped with a side door on each side and with the Allied full cushion trucks removed from NE-10 13554, all at Havelock in April 1963.  That is, the trucks were changed at the same time the side doors were added.  Both were done so the car could be assigned to mixed train service between Sterling, Colo., and Cheyenne, Wyo.  If anyone is interested, I can post photos of both waycars with the Allied trucks.
 
Hol
 
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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:39:18 -0600
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Rupert:
 
I have an original of the Corbin slide (he shot half a dozen or more and traded the extras), taken on May 30, 1959, and I've attached a scan.  I recall he did say that another was painted at the same time, and obviously it was the 13966, coupled to the 14151.  He also noted that they made a mistake in painting the stove exhaust stacks red and that they were soon repainted with high temperature resistant aluminum paint.  The "paint shop" at Lincoln, as at most other locations at the time, was simply a spot on the rip track, and cars were repainted out in the open.  Havelock did, of course, have an inside paint shop, but simple repaints were done on rip tracks all across the system.
 
Hol
 

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Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:22:10 +1300
Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q Waycar Questions

 

Hol

The photo was on eBay and shows 14151 coupled to another newly painted car which I think is 13366, suggesting that they have both just left the paint shop.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 


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Ken, Rupert and all:
 
Corbin told me the 14151 was supposedly the first waycar to have been repainted Chinese red.
 
Hol
 


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Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 19:04:19 +1300
Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q Waycar Questions

 

Ken

I don’t have anything specific about the change to Chinese red for way cars, but plenty has been said in the past about the use of that paint during 1958 and none of it related to waycars. It could be, of course, that no-one has asked the question before!

The earliest Chinese red photo I’ve found is of 14151 looking very newly painted in 1959.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 


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Sent: 18 March 2015 06:47
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I have been studying Randall Danniel's books on CB&Q waycars (especially the 28-foot and 30-foot wooden cars) in hopes of building some models, but have come up with a few questions that I cannot answer totally from the books:

 

Did the waycar paint scheme shift from mineral red to Chinese red about 1958, in about the same time frame as freight cars? Is that the same time the lettering style changed from Railroad Roman to the more Gothic style?

 

It looks to me like the more common herald was the rectangle without the black background, but some heralds seem to have a black background. Was this something that was changed at a particular time, or was this at the whim of the paint shops?

 

Ken Middleton
Portage, MI
krmiddle@charter.net

 

 




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CB&Q Waycar 14151, Lincoln, Neb., 5-30-1959, B.G. Corbin photo, Corbin-Wagner coll..jpg


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