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From: "'Kenneth Middleton' krmiddle@charter.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:41:26 -0400
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Hi Charlie,
 
I truly don't know if the 4-4-0 that Rupert mentions below was actually sent to the Macon Construction Company or if the one that eventually would up on the Q was the same. At any rate, the Rhode Island builders list shows Construction Number 2202 as being built for the Wyoming Pacific Improvement Company. This engine was actually Pacific Short Line No. 13, and after the usual iterations we've been discussing ended up as Willmar & Sioux Falls/Great Northern 238. GN included it in Class B-6, the rest of which were Rogers locomotives. GN 238 was assigned to the CB&Q by the 11/1/1907 lease, and was delivered to the CB&Q on January 29, 1908. Joe Douda's correspondence with me stated that on the CB&Q it became No. 373, and operated as a Class A-2 engine. It was retired in July 1918.
 
Best regards,
 
Ken Middleton
Portage, MI
krmiddle@charter.net
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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] K-9 Ten-Wheelers

 

I did run across the 4-4-0 in the Rhode Island list but did not record it as it did not go to the Q.   If anyone needs the info I can look it up easily and copy it.

Charlie Vlk

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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2015 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] K-9 Ten-Wheelers

 

Charlie

A few extra details.  Wyoming Pacific Improvement Co. was the company behind the Nebraska & Western which built the Covington (South Sioux City) to O?Neill line (plus two other related companies which were supposed to build to Salt Lake City didn?t actually build any track) The actual contractor for the completed section was E P Reynolds & Co.

Macon Construction Co. was a developer of railroads in Georgia, etc. in 1889-1894 (and maybe earlier) including the Macon & Birmingham and the Macon & Atlantic roads.  Just to muddy the waters, one of the projected roads was the Macon & North-eastern to connect Covington (Georgia, not Nebraska) ) to Macon.  Looking at the management and boards of Wyoming Pacific Improvement and Macon Construction doesn?t show any connection between the companies.


There is a note in Railway Review for 8 November 1890 stating that the Rhode Island Locomotive Works was ?building a compound locomotive for the Macon Construction Co. This engine is of the eight-wheeled typo, and is intended for fast passenger service.?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


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According to the Connelly and Rhode Island Lists the ex-GN K-9 Rhode Island 4-6-0s_were as follows:

CB&Q 943    GN 994             2264                Macon Construction Company                       131      18x24  62?      Dec 1889    ret 10/12    to Wyoming Pacific Improvement Co. 10   Pacific Short Line

CB&Q 944    GN 995             2265                Macon Construction Company                       132      18x24  62?      Dec 1889    ret 10/13    to Wyoming Pacific Improvement Co. 11   Pacific Short Line

CB&Q 945      GN 996           2328                Wyoming Pacific Improvement Co.   12        18x24  55?      Apr 1890            ret 11/13

CB&Q 946      GN 997           2440                Wyoming Pacific Improvement Co.   15        18x24  54?      Aug 1890            disposition unknown

I wish Joe were still with us to weigh in on this discussion?.he may have provided more up-to-date information to Connelly.   The Rhode Island lists do not indicate the engines going to the GN or the CB&Q, but all seem to be contractors locomotives and if anyone has more detailed info on the building of the O?Neil branch it may help clarify if the info is likely to be correct.

Charlie Vlk






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