All Were there ever any issues with the tank cars leaking oil to the point where is caused difficulty in getting trains going or stopped? I'm pretty sure that cars that leaked were pulled off but there are different classes of leaks and sometimes a little oil may not be enough to pull the car out of service but the leaked oil may have an effect on operations. Thanks Ricky Keil Papillion, NE
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:54:39 -0400 Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two
That's the one I had in mind...Now I don't have to look.
Pete
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Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 6:44 pm
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October 31, 2013
All - I found the image on the web. I knew it existed. Here's the
site:
The image is credited to the BRHS Archives. So, a higher resolution image
should be available for viewing. Not able to read the reporting marks on the
tank cars.
The web site has some interesting history about the Q in Wyoming. Best
Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
October 31, 2013
All - I've seen the same photo and it shows, as I recall, four new FT
motors with a solid train of tank cars in the Wind River Canyon during World
War Two. When the Q decided to dieselize, Lines West was targeted first. The
Wyoming lines were a priority due to the lack of potable/boiler water
that resulted in expensive-to-operate water treatment plants being located
in most terminals and at rural water plugs or tanks. I vaguely
remember the Q being able to obtain the hard-to-get FTs from EMD by
certifying to the Government they were badly needed to power priority oil
trains through bad water areas. Much like the Santa Fe did in acquiring their
World War Two fleet of FTs that replaced most steam across the badlands
of Arizona and New Mexico. Of course, the FTs did a wonderful job on the
Casper Division and spelled the end for the Class O-4 2-8-2's by the early
1950s when they were bumped to Lincoln and Hastings, NE. A number of them
were later sold to the C&S where they ran out their last miles in the
late 1950s on sugar beet extras. If any one can locate the image we're all
talking about may be the reporting marks on the tank cars can be identified.
Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
Well believe it or not I was wrong about what I
remembered....I went down and found the album..It was put out by Kalmbach
and there is one Wind River Canyon photo, but it's a steam powered freight
train..
Once again..sometimes my memory is so good that it remembers places
that never were and things that never happened.
Pete
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Bill et al
I think that the photo you are referrencing is in that oversize photo
album..maybe put out by Kalmbach...the stuff was vintage 1940-s early
50's...I have it someplace and will try to find it when I return from the
BRHS annual meet.
Pete
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Oct 31, 2013 2:58 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War
Two
John,
I recalling seeing a photo in a very old "Trains Magazine" of a solid
tank car train on the Q. As I remember, it was pulled by FTs and the photo
was taken somewhere on the Wind River line. As far as tank car ownership,
back in WWII as it is now, most of the tank cars were private owner,
primarily GATX and UTLX. I don't know how the WPB restrictions applied to
them, but I assume that every available tank car was pressed into shipment
of oil and oil products for the war effort.
Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO
Wed
Oct 30, 2013 10:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
All-
Another
NPR report today on oil companies moving oil by rail as they can't get the
Keystone XL pipe line built had me thinking about the NP's dedicated oil
trains to support the war in the Pacific during WWII. Does anyone know the
details (or has an article been written) on dedicated oil trains on the Q
during WWII? Presume FWD-KC-Laurel, but anything is possibl e.
As
an addendum to the above, the NP's tank car fleet was just about nil in
1940 (just a handful for company service). Does anyone know how many tank
cars the Q rostered in 1940 and then in 1945? With the War Production
Board clamping down on who got what for the duration, I would like to know
if they allocated any materials for tank car construction (as tankers were
quickly taken up in war service and withdrawn from coastal/Gulf public
trade).
RSVP
John
Phillips
Seattle
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