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Re: [CBQ] Adverts

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Adverts
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:03:16 -0800 (PST)
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Pete
I think it had something to do with the territory id.  ie in if I remember right in about 1960, or when ever, the Galesburg DS office was split all the track north of the Main Line(Galesburg to Aurora) went to Aurora and later Cicero While all the tracks south went to the Hannibal Office.   And it was after the Cicero and Hannibal offices were consolidated in Galesburg(1983) that we started to use the on duty initials.
Steve in SC


From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 20, 2012 12:35:11 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Adverts

 

Steve...I knew that the change from Supt's initials to CD or DS, but I didn't know exctly when it occurred...It was another blow to my traditional thinking.  I wonder why the change and what difference it really made...I'm sure there is no logical answer, but I thought I would put it "out there" anyhow.
 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Adverts

 
Pete
Also the methods used varied between offices as the Chief was the BOSS.  Later on things got more system wide use.  For a while the Supt. initials were used on train orders this changed to the Chiefs and in the mid-'80s we used our own initials.  Because there was a slight delay in the radio transmissions every body thought my initials were FJH so I started to use Sam John Henry.  But he is retired now
Steve in SC


From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 19, 2012 9:38:05 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Adverts

 
Around here the Geeps and SD's were still called motors even after the BN merger. As long as the old Q men were around it was still motors, waycars and pots (for dwarf signals).

--- On Wed, 12/19/12, Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> wrote:

From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Adverts
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2012, 8:16 PM

 
Well and correctly stated Charlie...during my 3 summer tenure on the Q engines were still referred to as "Motor"...Train orders were also addressed that way in some, but not all cases.  Seems like...subject to correction (if you're old enough to know or remember" that the F units were referred to as motors and GP's and SD's were engine. 
 
I never saw a train order directing "Motor No. 1234" to run extra...but I distinctly remember that train orders address to freight trains with an F unit would read...No. 71, Motor No. 156.  Maybe it was just up to the dispatcher as to how he did it..
 
Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 2:25 pm
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Adverts

 
 
The “Motor” designation carried far into the dieselization of the CB&Q.   It was a logical designation the terminology was not limited to gas or distillate powered units nor make any distinction for the power transmission…..direct or generator/electric motors.    
The Q already had a organization built to care for similar technology so the Zephyrs were an extension of what they were already using and at the time few had any notion of what the 9900 was starting.
 
Charlie Vlk


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