If you can provide the Pullman names, I can provide the
information on the cars themselves.
At 07:38 AM 8/11/2012, you wrote:
Dave, when I find some time (I
have two sisters in hospice care right now) I will collate all the
consists for you, I would guess that 30 or more list all of the cars in
the consists, many had CB&Q chair cars and baggage cars in tow.
The train register slips are of litttle use since freight trains, nearly
always run as extras were the only trains required to be registered. The
conductors even had to enter what color flags were displayed on the
engine.The problem with the Pullman Co. cars is that the
agent/operator.conductors listed them by name which I will include for
your use and handling. Best Regards, Bob M
From: Dave Lambert
<dave@dglambert.com>
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] C&S Trains #29 and #30
Bob,
Very interesting post, thank you for it!
Are there any mail & express train consists amongst your paper?
I am a consist collector, but most of mine are from the 50s and 60s.
Thanks,
Dave Lambert
David G. Lambert
Instructor of Chemistry
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On Aug 10, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "POOTUS2010"
<bearmtnbob@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I have been going over a large lot of paperwork from the agent/operators
at Cheyenne and Chugwater, Wyoming that originated in 1917. In addition
to a large number of train register slips, there were numerous copies of
train delay and other roll-by reports as to the consists of #29 and #30
as they rolled by Chugwater. There were also numerous copies of Form 22,
which detailed the freight train consists out of Cheyenne. Each report
lists the engine, cars, conductor, brakeman and flagman as well as any
delays or problems en route (passenger got a finger caught in the
vestibule door of a chair car. Two things, albeit trivial, that stand out
is #1 Every single passenger train that went by Chugwater had an 800
consolidation on the head end (all these reports were from April, 1917)
so did every freight train except for 1 trains with more than 11 cars
which had #706 on the head end, two of those trains (18 and 21 cars) were
double-headed. If I remember correctly, CB&Q 2814? appeared on #29
once. Sometimes the registers or reports listed tonnages, other times the
number of cars were shown instead. On every single report on #29 or #30
the word "Coach" was never used once by an agent or conductor.
It was always "Chair Car" or "Chair" never
"coach" Reminds me of how we and ATS&F people always said
"Way Car" while UP and D&RGW people used
"Caboose." Another oddity is the fact that most of the
passenger train roll by inspections showed at least three heavyweight
Pullmans, usually four, and one time there were six. One has to wonder
how a 2-8-0 made time with an rpo baggage, an extra baggage car, two
chair cars and six Pullmans over that roller coaster line. Most of the
Pullmans originated in Denver, while one or two were added daily in
Cheyenne for connections to the Pacific NW, going in the opposite
direction, one or two were dropped in Cheyenne, the rest seemed destined
for the Gulf Coast via the FW&DC. Many of the "better"
Pullman cars such as the "Bruges" made their way onto these two
trains. One other interesting footnote to the operating history of the
Wyoming lines is that operators and agents often sent unuusual requests
as part of some train orders. I found operators requesting that track
forces watch for pieces of broken wheel flanges between mileposts and to
retrieve same. As an ex railroader, I can tell you they did this to
recover evidence to be used in an investigation for somebody who missed a
thin or broken flange during a running repair or inspection. Not that I
ever faced an investigation, I can assure you, really, I never, ever did,
really! I repeat this is all one form of trivia or another but it does
give a bit of life to the familiar books we use and enjoy as students of
railroad history. Best regards, Bob M
Bob Webber
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