Thanks for the link, Dave. I have
bound copies of Q Rules and Rates of Pay for Yardmen and Switchtenders,
Rules and Rates of Pay for Locomotive Firemen, Hostlers, and Outside Hostler
Helpers, and Rules and Rates of Pay for Conductors. I've never seen a copy or
online version of Rules and Rates of Pay for Engineers, so let us know if you
find that one online.
All of the books have the same basic rules,
but there are also job specific rules that are most interesting to read
about.
Nelson
This past weekend I was doing a
bit of research on Waycars and found this very interesting 269 page document
available on line. The title is Chicago, Burlington & Quincy
Railroad Company, Rules and Rates of Pay for Trainmen, Rules effective May 1,
1928 (as revised) and Rates Effective December 1, 1952. Here is a
link to the document:
The document begins with a handy 8 page index. The index
gives a broad overview of the scope of rules involved in a trainman's life and
workday and how he was compensated. Page 46 (Rule 47) has some
information about responsibilities involved in securing on board equipment for
a waycar as discussed on another thread regarding Waycar Equipment.
Page 4 gives the definition of who was considered a "trainman."
Pages 1 through 3 has a table of Trainman rates of pay. Page 11 gives a
definition of a "basic day" of work. 150 miles equaled a "basic day" of
work. The run from Chicago to Savanna was equal to 144.8 miles.
Pages 25-26 show tables of Daily and Monthly Pay Guarantees. Page 45
rule 46 gives the rules for "Switching Cabooses" at terminals and relates to
the rule violations cited by Leo in his 12-21-2011 response on the
topic.
If you thought working on he railroad would have been a glamorous and
fascinating way of life, read this document to get an idea of the complexity
of the job, hours of work, time away from home and duties it
entailed.
Later, Dave S. Tucson, AZ
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Re: [CBQ] Waycar Assignments
Leo and Pete,
Leo thanks for doing a search of the file at the Aurora Lodge.
Getting the numbers of waycars will helpme determine which numbers I will
select for my models as well as just expanding the general information
available about waycars and their conductors. There has to be a "gold
mine" of information contained within those files. Do the files go back
100 years or more?
Pete thanks for a humorous story. I still miss seeing the waycars
at the end of freights.
Later, Dave
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Leo DAve et al
Here's a little semi waycar related anecdote....This told me by W. C.
Bush who was Asst. Supt at Lincoln somtime in the 1980's...
It was shortly after the "fred" came out and were being put to general
use...Bush was out in the yard one day and came across "Sam" a waycar supply
man...Bush said..."Well, Sam what do you think about these new
freds"....
Sam's reply..."Well, Mr. Bush I think there gonna be all right...They
dont give you a lot of s...and they don't always want a bag of ice.
Pete
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Dec 21, 2011 12:02 am Subject: [CBQ] Waycar Assignments
Dave,
Here's what I found tonight on waycar assignments in the Aurora Lodge
files.
Q 13988 on assignment to Condr in C&I pool in July 1934. He came into
Western Ave after deliverying stock train to Union Yards and filed grievance
for the manner his waycar was handled at Western Ave before going to the
waycar track at Cicero.
Another Condr came into 14th St w/silk extra in 1925 but doesnt show his
w/c #. with similar complaint about handling.
Q 13841 assigned to Condr in C&I pool in 1947. Also Q 13977 with same
assignment. Condr Kenyon transferred while in route at Eola on #97 from 13977
to 13841 as 13977 scheduled to go to shop and 13841 had just returned from
shop.
As I mentioned before the files literally bulge with complaints about way
car handling at almost all terminals. Unfortunately the men rarely documented
the waycar they were in when it was kicked,coupled into at speed, shoved
around the yard for hours instead of going to the waycar track,pulled from
waycar track hours before needed,not placed near water,fuel,etc, frt cars
placed onto w/c tracks,frt cars placed alongside w/c tracks blocking any air
movement,etc.etc.etc...........................
The more I read the files the more I appreciate the pool waycars and bad
hotels of my days on the Aurora Div.
Leo Phillipp
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