Steve...Group,
There was (is?) an American plant in the Midway area of St. Paul.
I believe the building is still standing and it is across the Minnesota
Commercial tracks from the Amtrak depot in the Midway area.
Greg K.
Minnesota
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@...> wrote:
>
> Dan
> Page 32 in the SD Bulletin looks like a 40 foot EJ&E car behind the locomotive
> In 1973-74 we use to get a load of can stock from American Can in the red 40
> foot 8 ft door DF cars at Congress Park every nite and it went north on #185
> the
> next afternoon but it was headed north of St.Paul somewhere(senior moment)
> The Ice Reefers would sometimes be used to carry can and bottled goods that
> were subject to freezing in the winter before the insulated box cars came
> along. Much to the dismay of beer bottlers who wanted the cars back right
> away
> Steve in SC
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan <dlgrobe@...>
> To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, September 13, 2011 11:29:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Rochelle
>
>
> Leo
>
> Thanks for the great info. Can you give any more info about the EJE boxcars?
> How many cars did the can plant get? The J is the other RR I have an interest
> in
> and you really don't hear much about where the cars went.
>
>
> Dan
>
> On Sep 9, 2011, at 7:43 AM, qutlx1@... wrote:
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > I think we covered cars piecemeal in some of the followup exchanges but
> > heres a summary by industry. The time period you model makes a big
> > difference.
>
> > Oh and of course this brought more memories to mind.
> >
> > Can Plant-Tinplate arrived in 50' double door 'J' box cars. Went out in
> > "system" double door 50s. System gons for scrap. The tinplate blew out of
> > the
> > cars and the stuff was along the ROW from Rochelle to Aurora. At some point
> > they started putting a plastic mesh over the loaded cars. One of the
> > regular day brakeman had a nice side income picking the heavy scrap out of
> > the
> >
> > "clean" inbound cars that he took everday to the local scrap dealer for
> > ready cash. He later died from on duty accident at Carnation.
> >
> > Delmonte,Stokley,Rochelle Asparagus,Carnation all used RBLs.
> > FGEX,RBBQ,WFEX then to BN system marks,etc and many foreign ones also as
> > they
> >were in
> >
> > assigned pools. In case some dont know the AAR car lingo an RBL is an
> > insulated box car. They were developed starting in the late 50s for canned
> > goods,etc. Prior to that it most likely was mty reefers(for temperature
> >protection
> >
> > ) and 40 foot box cars.
> >
> > Swift- the oldest smallest tank cars for the period you model for
> > tallow,urea,etc old dog box cars for hides and other PHP. Stock cars
> > inbound if
> >
> > early time period. Meat ice reefers for loading and then mechanical
> > reefers.
> > Thats where the "ice" track at Rochelle got its name. The reefers going
> > into the plant were iced just outside on an extension between the storage
> > track and the switch into Swift off the main.
> >
> > Standard Oil-UTLX tank cars as there was a corporate historical tie there
> > and also other leasing companies such as GATX,etc. These would be 8 &10k
> > cars until the 60s and 70s when cars "grew". Of course the Q tanks that
> > have
> > been discussed.
> >
> > New City-N&W battleship hoppers and Q hoppers. Also occassional PRRs.and
> > ICs.
> >
> > Just make sure you have far more cars than the layout will hold so its
> > realistic operations !
> >
> > Leo
>
>
>
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