Gerald
I"m looking forward to your Christmas gift....All railroads had code books to
do what you have described..I've made inquiry over the years, but haven't been
able to locate one..
I remember words like...surf....ruffian... wrench Each word, as you said
conveyed an entire phrase and saved time and effort on the part of telegraph
opeators on routine business.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
To: cbq <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Dec 16, 2010 1:10 pm
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: various types of Morse code
o-called Continental Morse was created by a German by the name of Gerhke (sp?)
evolved into or became the same as International Morse. ("Continental" often
eing a term used by Americans to describe something from Europe, i.e. the
ontinent) as opposed to being of American origin.
hus for all intents & purposes for nearly a century there have been 2 Morse
ode systems, American & International with a few variances within countries
ith odd alphabets. I know from experience working in Air Force intelligence
uring 'Nam, the Red Chinese & Russians had slight variations from each other so
t made it easy to tell one from the other BUT both were using International
orse Code. (an aside: it was a LOT easier for us to learn their lingo, ie.
nternational Morse, than for them to learn the alphabet and relate it to their
lphabet and send same via code. Then add in the fact our radios, antennas &
atellites were/are far superior plus better cryptology, we knew far more about
hat they were up to then vice-a-versa such as when a new Mig was being shipped
o China from Russia and possibly on to No. Vietnam) But back to RRing:
y Christmas list to the gift will touch on code words used by CB&Q that allowed
perators to communicate even faster; i.e. using a 4-6 letter 'word' to mean an
ntire phrase.
erald
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
rom: gbrewer@yahoo.com
ate: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 18:49:25 +0000
ubject: [CBQ] Re: FW: Morse Code: A Lost Language
Nelson,
I believe we have a confusion over names here. As I understand it, WU
nd the RRs used "American Morse", I'm not sure what the difference
etween International Morse and Continental Morse is, but neither is the
ame as American Morse. Just to confuse the issue further, I believe the
ld operators used the Philips Code as well. This was a shorthand for
ords and concepts (ie, -30- for end of message).
Glen
ailroad Glory Days <http://railroadglorydays.com>
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Moyer" <ku0a@...> wrote:
Actually, International Morse is faster to send and easier to copy at
igh
speed, where the spaces in Continental code get lost above 35-40 words
er
minute. It takes longer to send C in Continental Morse at high speed
ecause
you have to pause for the space. I timed myself send C using both
odes to
verify that high speed Morse is really faster and more intelligible
han
Continental Morse using an iambic keyer. Of course, if you're using a
ug,
you can't send intelligible code above 35-40 wpm because the
echanical
action of the bug is the limiting factor. Bugs are instantly
ecognizable
because every operator has a distinctive 'fist'. With an iambic keyer,
ll
proficient operators sound alike. Code proficient hams routinely
ontest and
rag chew at 40 wpm. An exceptional few can copy International Morse in
heir
head at 55 wpm. I don't know anybody that can send or receive
ontinental
Morse at that speed. I think Continental Morse was a hold-over from
he
early telegraph days when the sounders couldn't send dashes, only
licks,
and the spaces between the clicks carried intelligence. Once it was
ossible
to send dashes, Continental Morse was abandoned in favor of
nternational
Morse because it is faster and easier to send and easier to copy,
specially
when sent using an iambic keyer. Morse code isn't a "lost language",
t's
just that fewer people are learning it since the Navy and Coast Guard
stopped using it and FCC dropped the code requirement for amateur
adio
licenses. Most of my radio contacts are in Morse code, and I prefer it
o
voice communication because it's easier to work weak signals through
he
noise using code.
Nelson, KU0A
-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
len
brewer
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:37 AM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Re: FW: Morse Code: A Lost Language
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Dale Reeves" drale99@ wrote:
>
> Not accurate to say the codes are slightly different. Continental
Morse has
> fewer dashes, many letters different. Uses spaces, much faster.
or
> instance, C is .. .., much faster than -.-.
Dale,
In conventional (land) Morse, a C is ".. ." vs "- . - ." in radio
ode.
The SOS well known as "... --- ..." in radio code, would be "... .
..." in Western Union or RR code. The real difference is that
International or Continental eliminated the pauses and elongated
ashes
using only dots and dashes. Yes, quite a few letters are different.
Glen
RailroadGloryDays.com <http://railroadglorydays.com>
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