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Re: [CBQ] Re: Aurora

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Aurora
From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 06:38:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Looking at the photo, it looks like 511 also has B trucks, at least on the 
front.

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Stephen Levine <sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Aurora
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 8:34 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      The original custom built 1800 HP passenger units, including 9904 thru 
9907 and Santa Fe units 1 and 1A, all had B trucks.  The Santa Fe units were 
full length and encountered tracking issues with the B trucks, hence A1A trucks.



--- On Thu, 5/20/10, cvlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:



From: cvlk <cvlk@comcast.net>

Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Aurora

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com

Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 5:40 PM



 



Bill-



I think you have it.... the paint on the unit is fresh and the idea is 
plausible.



Does anyone know if the 511 and 512 were used as test beds before they were 
used to make switchers for the MP?   It seems to me highly unlikely that EMC 
went right into produciton with the Blomberg truck.   We know that the CB&Q got 
the prototype welded A1A truck (under the 9908 Silver Charger) but how was the 
truck tested before being made in cast versions for the EA units?   For that 
matter, was there a comparable B truck before the FTs were produced?   I've 
tried to get in touch with Preston Cook, who has done the excellent articles in 
Railfan, but apparently Carstens doesn't check emails sent through their 
website.  



Charlie Vlk



----- Original Message ----- 



From: William Barber 



To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 



Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:13 AM



Subject: [CBQ] Re: Aurora



Charlie,



While your theory is plausible, I question moving or staging the 



second unit on the through running track to change locomotives. It 



would seem that the normal move would be to set the shovel nose unit 



over on one of the station tracks to the right rather than foul the 



freight main. I agree that the shovel nose may not be on a train as I 



believe both the TCZ and the DZ had scheduled stops at Aurora. I 



don't recall if or where a switch to the freight main was west of the 



depot. It had to be quite a ways west, if it existed.



There is another possibility. It may have been a "staged" photo op 



for either the RR, the press or possibly for EMD. The lighting is 



obviously better from the south side of the tracks, so if the #511 is 



the focal point, then placing the shovel nose unit behind would make 



sense. My guess is that there is a significant event occurring. Maybe 



it was the first trip with the EMD test unit painted silver. 



Obviously, the crewmen are interested. I know that I have seen photos 



of the 511 and 512 operating on the Q in their original black paint 



scheme, so it is not the first run of the units.



Bill Barber



Gravois Mills, MO



On May 20, 2010, at 4:43 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:



> Re: Aurora



> Posted by: "cvlk" cvlk@comcast.net n_cbqguy



> Wed May 19, 2010 1:24 pm (PDT)



>



>



>



> I'm wondering if the scene is the regular power of the TCZ being 



> replaced with the 511...... or maybe vice-versa. I don't know what 



> the schedule for the DZ and TCZ at Aurora would have been, but 



> since the EA unit dosen't look like it is on a track with a 



> platform, and the crew is standing around the front of the unit, it 



> isn't likely that it is on another scheduled train.



> Charlie Vlk



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