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RE: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own

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From: Gerald & Virginia Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:56:45 -0600
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Several old 'car pushers' are still around too (I recall using one to spot a 
hopper @ a Sanding facility) - could inch cars using that 6-7' pole with small 
wheel on end pushing underneath a car wheel.  Gerald


 
 


 



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From: rmh711@aol.com
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own

  




And most of the "old tricks" are forbiden now and will get you fired.

rich

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From: archie hayden <kliner@mywdo.com>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 9:22 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own

Glen, An old carman showed me how to move a car by myself at least a 
ew feet. By grabbing hold of the flange right where the wheel is 
itting on the rail and pulling straight upward the car will start to 
ove. Works easier on empties of course. They also showed us how to 
et a jam (two knuckles closed together and not coupled)opened so the 
rack can be coupled up. Many of these old Indian tricks saved a 
rainman a lot of steps and time. Archie
n Nov 15, 2009, at 1:52 AM, GLEN HAUG wrote:
>
This isn't related to a car rolling on its own, but I was on a B&B 
gang that had to move a material gon a few fit on a spur track, and 
5 of us were able to move it (by pushing and using pinch bars) on 
level track with the brakes released. It was then that I realized 
it doesn't take much effort to get a freight car to roll.

Glen Haug

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From: js08ws62@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 03:47:26 +0000
Subject: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own

It seems to me that everyone on this list is here because we admire, 
love, and are generally curious about all the aspects of 
railroading. So, this question, though off-topic, might be of 
general interest to all, and of specific interest to those who know 
physics.

Railroading began and continues to be a popular and effective way of 
moving freight because a rolling steel wheel on a steel rail is very 
efficient. I have seen reports that an 8- wheel freight car rests on 
less than 2 square inches. And, it is steel on steel - little 
friction. Moreover, I am sure all of us have witnessed the very long 
distances that a very slow moving freight car can roll on its own. 
It is phenomenal. So
here's a theoretical question:

If an ordinary, empty, boxcar resting on 2 roller-bearing 4-wheel 
trucks was given a 50 mile an hour push on a perfectly level, 
perfectly straight railroad track on a windless day, how far would 
it go before stopping on its own?

It also would be interesting to hear some of your stories known from 
personal experience regarding long distances rolled by railroad cars 
moving on their own. Another phenomenon worthy of comment would be 
just how silently they roll. I'm sure many have stories about that, 
too.

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