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Re: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:37:08 -0500
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I can't answer as to how far a car as you've stated would travel. There is 
always friction. Friction wheel to rail and friction in the axle bearings. And 
it's worse the colder it gets. I can tell you I've kicked cars in a yard that 
is as near flat / level as you'll find in the real world. I once let a car go 
at about five or six miles per hour and had to chase it down and stop it so it 
wouldn't roll out of the other end of the yard a mile away. That's a long way 
to run on ballast.

If there is snow on the ground it doesn't have to be ribbon rail to not hear 
'em coming either. A slow moving car on jointed rail in the snow is dead 
silent. Now hears one, refering back to switching and how cars roll, I've 
switched in yards that are on grades, in the snow. Back when we had two or 
three men on a crew one would be designated as the field man. It was his job to 
make sure the joints (couplings) made, cars were not rolling back out of the 
track, to handle switches "up high", that is, far down the lead etc.  I've 
kicked snow on the rail under the wheel of a car, an impromptu wheel chock, to 
keep them from rolling out. It works, but not always. If it saves me from 
climbing up high to tie on a hadbrake I'm all for it. Oh yea you can't forget 
and leave 'em that way either. The guy on the crew walking around with a stick 
in one hand was probably the field man or a POed forman.



-----Original Message-----
From: smokyjoe66 <js08ws62@sbcglobal.net>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2009 9:47 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Railroad Freight Cars Moving on Their Own



It seems to me that everyone on this list is here because we admire, love, and 
re generally curious about all the aspects of railroading.  So, this question, 
hough off-topic, might be of general interest to all, and of specific interest 
o those who know physics.
Railroading began and continues to be a popular and effective way of moving 
reight because a rolling steel wheel on a steel rail is very efficient. I have 
een reports that an 8- wheel freight car rests on less than 2 square inches. 
nd, it is steel on steel -  little friction. Moreover, I am sure all of us have 
itnessed the very long distances that a very slow moving freight car can roll 
n its own. It is phenomenal.   So… here's a theoretical question:
If an ordinary, empty, boxcar resting on 2 roller-bearing 4-wheel trucks was 
iven a 50 mile an hour push on a perfectly level, perfectly straight railroad 
rack on a windless day, how far would it go before stopping on its own? 
It also would be interesting to hear some of your stories known from personal 
xperience regarding long distances rolled by railroad cars moving on their own. 
nother phenomenon worthy of comment would be just how silently they roll. I'm 
ure many have stories about that, too.


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