Cy,
I'd be very pleased to know what evidence you have that the Pullman Company
which built the sleepers and operated the sleepers and the kitchens for the
Defense Plant Corporation during the War, was not having these problems with
the Allied Full Cushion trucks.
I believe they were.
There is plenty of evidence in Railway Age, and other trade publications in
the immediate post-war era that many railroads (GN, NP, PRR for example)
were very aware of these problems. That's a major reason why these roads
passed during the post-war auctions of the troopers.
As I mentioned, the very best maintenance on these trucks still didn't
prevent catastrophic high-speed failures. That's why the AAR finally forbade
them in interchange, they were just too dangerously unpredictable to
operate.
To make matters worse, they were very hard-riding.
Best regards,
Dave Lambert
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svobodny
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:05 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars
Interesting that the problem with the trucks did not
exhist til after the railroads bought the Pullman
troop sleeper and kitchen car fleet. 1. They did not
maintain them as they should. 2. It was a truck design
that required a diff. set of spare parts inventory.
--- Dave Lambert <dave@dglambert. <mailto:dave%40dglambert.com> com> wrote:
> Loren,
>
>
>
> Without getting either too technical or too
> detailed, the Allied Full
> Cushion trucks had certain design and structural
> shortcomings that could and
> often did result in the truck sideframes detaching
> from the truck journals.
>
>
>
> Railroad management frowns on this kind of behavior
> in a high speed (or low
> speed, for that matter) truck.
>
>
>
> A second problem was directly related to the first.
> Preventive maintenance
> on these trucks-at least spotting the potential for
> this problem was
> concerned-was nearly impossible without dropping a
> wheel set.
>
>
>
> The trucks were declared forbidden for interchange
> by the AAR effective
> 9-1-1959.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Dave Lambert
>
>
>
> _____
>
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> To: CBQ@yahoogroups. <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Branchline Pullman Cars
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> I know that the Allied Full Cushion Trucks were
> banned in interchange, what
> was the reason? I know the Q ran them under the
> Geeps and ran them at high
> speed but I've never heard that the Q had problems
> with the truck. I know
> there
> is an EJ&E Troop Pullman over at Griffith IN that
> still has the Allied Full
> Cushion Trucks under it, of course it was in company
> service.
>
> Loren Johnson
>
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