Scott,
As I read the Rule Book, again this is a May 1951 edition, switchers had
both lights on at night and a road locomotive had to have the front (
defined by direction of travel) on all the time. The persons who can best
answer this are those that worked for the Q family lines.. My expience is
from my granddad and hanging around the yard at Wallsend Ky on the L&N,
which won't help.
I agree, with the use of DCC and lights, we should know what is the
correct way to run the trains. I have put functioning headlights in my two
FW&D steam engines but none in my L&N locomotives. That is what triggered
my second question as I actively model in the 1900 era but have a large
second "collection" of modern steam and I am aiming for the late 40's to
1950 period. Do I run the Denver Road locomotives with lights on or off?
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Myers, Scott V." <svmyers@southernco.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Locomotive Lights
> Patrick (and others),
>
> Was this rule interpreted to mean that the headlight (as in the light at
> what was normally the front end of the locomotive) on road units remained
> on at all times, even when running backward, and when running backward the
> rear headlight was on also? Was the rear light then off when traveling in
> a forward direction?
>
> Based on rule 18, were the lights on yard switchers only on at night?
> Were both front and rear headlights on then, regardless of the direction
> of travel?
>
> As those with decoders in their model locomotives have probably already
> figured out, I am trying to determine how to correctly program the
> decoders for the lights on my diesels.
>
> Thanks for the assistance.
>
> Scott Myers
>
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> From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com on behalf of homanfamily
> Sent: Wed 11/22/2006 8:38 PM
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Locomotive Lights
>
>
>
> My May 1951 Rule Book (CB&Q, C&S, FW&D and Wichita Valley) contains the
> following:
> Rule 17 'the Headlight will be displayed to the front of every train by
> day and by night. It must be concealed or extinguished when a train turns
> out to meet another and has stopped clear of main track or is standing to
> meet a train at end of two or more tracks or a junction.
> It must be dimmed while standing in yards when yard engines are
> employed.
> When an engine is running backward a white light must be displayed by
> night on the leading end.
> At night, when standing or moving about yards, road engines without cars
> must display a red light to the rear
>
> Rule 17a discussed that a headlight failure at night then a white light is
> displayed to the front with the bell ringing continuously and the whistle
> sounding often. Also speed is reduced and the dispatcher notified.
> There are additional sections under Rule 17 concerning failure of a
> headlight before a train is clear of the main, requires flagging, and
> dimming the light rather than extinguishing it in CTC territory.
>
> Rule 18 states yard engines will display the headlight to the front and
> rear
> by night. When not provided with a headlight to the rear, a white light
> will be used.
> This is followed by a note that the headlight on the end coupled to high
> cars may be extinguished.
>
> Rules 19 through 26 discusses marker lights, flags and blue lights.
>
> This is the latest Rule book that I have for the Q. I note similar
> instructions in several L&N Rule books.
>
> Let me pose two questions. I grew up in Cincinnati and Southeastern KY,
> where my granddad was an engineer on the L&N. I never saw a steam engine
> on
> the L&N run with the headlight on until 1956, shortly before all fires
> were
> dropped. I first noted steam locomotives running with headlights on while
> on a family vacation to Yellowstone Park in 1951. I was told as some point
> on the trip that this was required on the plains and in the West due to
> the
> high speeds of trains that the whistle was not sufficient warning for
> motorist. This made sense. My question, when did this practice start?
>
> The second question is are there any video's or sound tapes of Q, C&S or
> especially FW&D steam. I want to know what type of whistles the
> locomotives
> had. In this age of sound for models, I would like to get it right. L&N
> had the same whistles on all steam locomotives, which is a lovely high
> pitched chime, but I admit prejudice. N&W had different whistles on the
> Y's, the J's and the S class 0-8-0's. What did the Q of the FW&D do?
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Patrick Homan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myers, Scott V." <svmyers@southernco.com
> <mailto:svmyers%40southernco.com> >
> To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 3:04 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Locomotive Lights
>
>> What were the rules the CB&Q followed with regards to headlights and
>> rear lights on their diesel locomotives? Were the head lights only lit
>> when the unit was going forward, and the rear light on when in reverse?
>> Or, were one or both lights always on? Did the practice vary between
>> the switch engines (SW, NW, S-2, VO1000) and road switchers (GP, SD, and
>> U-boats)? Also, did the rules vary over time?
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>> What about the headlights and mars lights on the lead locomotives of F
>> and E units?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Scott Myers
>>
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