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Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Railroad Fair

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago Railroad Fair
From: Bob Webber <no17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:07:32 -0600
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I never did find records for the C&S cars before 
or after the fair aside from what I had written.

For the D&RGW portion:
The Fair had been such a success that it was 
decided to run it for the summer of 1949 as 
well.  The Deadwood Central had been so popular 
that a second narrow gauge train was added.  The 
equipment was lettered as the ?Cripple Creek & 
Tin Cup Railroad? and the Denver & Rio Grande 
Western provided it.  Another timetable was 
produced (see photo x).  The herald used was an 
obvious modification of the ?Mainline thru the 
Rockies? herald that had been recently 
introduced.  In this case, the words ?MAIN LINE? 
substituted for the ?Flying Rio Grande? in the 
bar in the center of the herald.  Around the rim 
of the new herald, instead of ?MAINLINE THRU THE 
ROCKIES?, it read ?Cripple Creek & Tin Cup R. R. 
? the Route of the ?Montezuma.?  President Wilson 
McCarthy raised the official flag of the Chicago 
Railroad Fair on June 25th.    July 24th was 
designated ?Rio Grande Day? (this is the date 
when the pioneers first entered Utah in 1847), 
and the program was slanted to the common 
beginnings of the Morman Church in Utah and the 
start of the Rio Grande.  This was also President McCarthy?s birthday.

A timetable was also created for the Cripple 
Creek & Tin Cup Railroad.  This timetable had one 
panel (of 16 panels) providing actual schedule 
information.  The ?Moffat Tunnel Route? (the 
train ran near the D&RGW exhibit which featured a 
scale reproduction of the east portal of the 
Moffat Tunnel and a theatre), ran from Tincup 
(Deadwood) to Gold Gulch (Cripple Creek).  It 
left ?Frequently? and arrived ?Too Soon,? 
operating from 10 AM to 10 PM daily.  Along the 
way, stops included Florida (C&EI exhibit), San 
Francisco Cable Car (WP exhibit), Latin Quarter 
(IC), Western Vacationland (GN-NP-CB&Q), MOFFAT 
TUNNEL (caps in original ? D&RGW), Rocket Village 
(CRI&P), Indian Village (AT&SF), Pullman 
Standard, Vitarama Hall (Eastern Railroads), 
?Wheels-A-Rolling? (the elaborate stage show), 
Paul Bunyan (C&NW), Pullman Co., Spanish-America 
(UP), Exhibition Tracks, Restaurants, Gold Gulch 
Post Office, Budd Company, and finally Gold 
Gulch.  It should be noted that the two terminals 
had dual names ? one for the Cripple Creek & Tin 
Cup Railroad and one for the Deadwood Central 
Railroad.  If the Narrow Gauge had interchanged 
with this many railroads, it would still be 
around (or long since converted to standard gauge)!

The equipment for the CC&TC RR was the C-16 
number 268 (renamed ?Montezuma?), one coach 
(?Chief Ouray?), 4 ?observation cars,? and one 
private car (former B3, lettered ?General William 
J. Palmer? for the fair). This Fair equipment had 
a very definite relation to that of the Rio 
Grande?s standard gauged passenger train, The 
Prospector.  The Rio Grande?s participation at 
the Fair was a special project of the Passenger 
Department, and the Fair equipment was painted in 
Rio Grande Gold with black stripes, soon to be 
found on the third iteration of The Prospector 
equipment. The Fair open-air observation car 
names: ?Brigham Young,? ?David Moffat,? ?John 
Evans,? and ?Heber C. Kimball? were also used as 
the names of the four cars making up the two 
two-car trainsets of the original Prospector 
(built by Budd in 1941) and the four Pullmans 
bought for the third Prospector.

This fair equipment had one record that the 
standard gauge Prospector never even hoped for ? 
it set the record for the highest per-train-mile 
revenue in the history of railroading.  A total 
of 606, 901 passengers paid a dime each to ride the half-mile long railroad.

More information is available, this is after all, 
a CB&Q list.   Information pertaining to the 
paint on the 268  - which is NOT the commonly 
thought of "bumble bee" paint scheme), who did 
work on it among other things - information that 
went into one of the earlier Prospectors and / or 
Greenlights, I can't recall just now.


At 10:41 PM 10/31/2006, cy svobodny wrote:
>What were the 4 converted gondolas/open air cars and
>what became of them? I've checked the C&S roster, but
>don't find them.   CY    p.s. Thanks again for the
>wealth of info about a event over 50 years ago.  Also
>what details are known about the D&RGW train of 1949.
>
>

Bob Webber 



 
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