Tom;
Perhaps another member can provide additional information, but I'll
contribute what I have been able to sort out.
I've kicked this question around many times myself, since I model the
late 1930's. By some point in the 1930's (if not earlier), there
definitely was a narrow red band around the perimeter of the Burlington
Route herald. I have a photo of K-2 666 at Dubuque, dated 6/1934. The
gold frame of the herald definitely has the halo around it, and the gold
frame is narrow. Perhaps I'm all wet, but the very early BR heralds on
locos appear in photos to have a wider gold frame and no red border. I
have no data to support this, but that's the way they look. I have a
very clear photo of S-2A 2919 taken in 1937, and it appears to be
wearing that style. (To my knowledge no such decal exists in any of the
scales)
Regardless, for O scale I'd either:
1. If the Champ herald can be cut down to approximately 3ft wide by 2ft
6 inches tall by narrowing the red band, then I'd trim the red border to
be approximately the same width as the gold frame.
2. Otherwise, ditch the heralds in the Champ set (which incidentally in
HO are also not accurate for most engines except perhaps in later
years.) Microscale doesn't seem to list a steam set for 1:48, but does
have a diesel switcher set with heralds that are probably close (based
on the image on their web site and the heralds in my Microscale early Q
switcher set). They don't have a black background, but since you'd be
applying them to a black tender, it wouldn't matter. They appear to
have the right proportions (comparing with my MS steam set), and they
have a narrow red band surrounding a narrow gold frame.
OR
3. If any one can confirm the existance of an "all gold with wider
frame" herald, you could probably use the roadname lettering out of the
center of the Champ herald and fabricate your own frame from suitable
stripes. Tedious and time consuming, but in O scale, probably not so
brutal.
Good luck.
Best regards, Rob
captmix wrote:
> I am ready to decal an O scale heavy USRA 2-8-2 but need some info on
> that "trade mark" emblem on the tender sides. In all of the black and
> white photos of freight engines during that period there definitely
> was no wide red border as was used after 1940.
>
> But was there a thin red border or, as it appears in old photos, an
> emblem the same as on freight cars? I have a number of Champ decals
> for steamers but all have that wide red band. The painting diagram
> from 1925 also does not show a wide band.
>
> So, what did that 1930's freight loco trade mark look like? Does
> anyone have a close-up photo from the period?
>
> Tom Mix
>
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>
Rob Adams
Wellman, IA
steamera@netins.net
Modeling CB&Q, CRI&P and Wabash operations in Keokuk, IA,
the Wabash Bluffs, IL to Keokuk branch,
and the CB&Q's Keokuk & Western branch, circa 1938
<http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>
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