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[CBQ] Correction: Re: Proto2000 SD45 & Type of cooling Fans

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Subject: [CBQ] Correction: Re: Proto2000 SD45 & Type of cooling Fans
From: "Dale DeWitt" <dcdewi@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:11:18 -0000
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Ed,

Sorry but I reversed the part numbers on the CBQ horns in my previous 
message.  The two chime Leslie horns are Overland #9015.  The 
rectangular high base can be cut from Precision Scale #39085.  These 
may be useful on other CB&Q models.

Dale

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Dale DeWitt" <dcdewi@a...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> I am sorry but I must have either failing eyesight or brain or 
both.  
> I thought I had looked at every single page in the reference books 
> you mentioned.  Anyway, the Sd-45 photos in Dorin's 
book, "Everywhere 
> West the Burling ton Route" are perfect for clearing up the fan & 
> horn type questions.  The Cannon fans look great in my model but 
are 
> a bit tedious to assemble.  Smokey Valley (ex Train Station & 
Details 
> Assoc also have some of the correct see thru type fans (#139 & 140) 
> that are simplier to install.
> 
> With regard to the horn I had already cut a rectangular horn 
support 
> bracket off of an Overland 9015 horn and used it.  Didn't realize 
it 
> might be triangular.  If you use the Precision Scale two trumpet 
horn 
> #39085 I think it will save you a lot of fabrication work.  Walters 
> currently has them in stock for $2.75.  I will add the air line to 
> the horns on top of the hood.
> 
> Now on to the big task of trying to correct the trucks.  I was 
> planning on replacing the sideframes that came on the model with 
P2K 
> SD7/9 sideframes and then repacing the bearing journals with sloped 
> top versions but due to a change in truck and gearbox design by P2K 
I 
> don't yet know if this will be possible. Maybe some Athearn SD9 
> sideframes would work easier.  This is going to be the difficult 
part.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dale DeWitt 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Ed Pavlovic <cbq168a@i...> wrote:
> > Dale,
> > This time I dug out the books, there is an overhead photo of
> > a group of the Q's SD45's taken at EMD's plant in LaGrange
> > on 1/20/1969 on page 12 of Dorin's "Everywhere West The
> > Burlington Route".  Unfortunately, they cropped the horn
> > bracket out of the bottom right corner of the photo on the
> > motor parked in front of the 527.  It still gives you a good
> > look at the two chime (both bells facing forward) Leslie
> > horns that the Q seemed to favor on the GP30, GP35, GP40 and
> > SD45's.  Also note the routing of the air line to the horn
> > that runs along the right side of the forward radiator fan
> > before it runs down into the hood just forward of the
> > radiator hatch.
> > 
> > The bracket is a little more visible on 529, it is basically
> > a triangular bracket, Overland offers this bracket as their
> > #9000, but you have to remove the three chime horn and
> > replace it with a two chime.  I use the Custom Finishing
> > #220 Leslie RSM-25-2R horn for the manifold, and then use
> > the two long bells off of their #221 Leslie RSL-3L horn to
> > represent the Q horns.  The Custom Finishing horns are
> > unassembled brass kits that can be either soldered or glued
> > together with ACC.  Once you file off the small amount of
> > flash they go together pretty easy, a set of small tapered
> > reamers helps in cleaning out the holes in the manifold. 
> > (Note that the brackets used to support the horns on the Q's
> > SD45's were different from the more square shaped ones used
> > on the GP30 and GP35 locomotives, and maybe the GP40's.)
> > 
> > While it doesn't show as much detail as the above
> > photograph, you may want to look at "Classic Locomotives The
> > Series, Volume 2:EMD SD-45" by Bob Warren on page 16
> > departing Maybrook, NY on the Eire Lackawanna in pool
> > service in October of 1969.  The same photo, although
> > smaller, also appears on the bottom of page 110 of Holck's
> > "Burlington Route Color Pictorial, Volume 2" it might come
> > in handy if you want to lightly weather your motors after
> > you finish detailing them up.
> > 
> > Good luck on your models, I started a Q SD45 model
> > originally with the Rail Power Products shell, gave up on
> > that and started on a Kato SD45 when they came out, and
> > partially painted it, but for whatever reason have never
> > worked on it again, and now P2K comes out with one already
> > painted up.  Oh well......
> > 
> > Ed Pavlovic



 
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