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Re: [BRHSlist] RE: Burlington ballast

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Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] RE: Burlington ballast
From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@a...>
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:41:49 -0600
References: <BAY1-F94vADalkX5Vrb00052ce1@h...> <003d01c2f4d9$9c4f79d0$6501a8c0@D...> <002e01c2f5f8$02ee9580$0f05460a@m...>
Reply-to: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@a...>
Russ-
I don't know anything more about the operation than it existed. IIRC I once
dug up maps and determined exactly where the operation was....it consisted
of not too much more than a few yard tracks next to an EJ&E yard...... I
will put it on the "look out for the material when you are rumaging through
the stuff" list.
Charlie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Strodtz" <vlbg@e...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] RE: Burlington ballast


> Charlie,
>
> I have personally billed thousand of cars of blast furnace slag
> used by the CB&Q as ballast and have never heard of such an
> operation either in my time or prior to it. By my time there was
> only one source in the Chicago area but in the 50's there were
> two, neither of which fits that description. In the late 60's slag
> was also obtained from Granite City Steel.
>
> I can say that slag ballast was used on the line North of Savanna.
> During and after the 1965 flood several solids trains were run
> North out of Congress Park.
>
> Russ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@a...>
> To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, 27 March, 2003 21:24
> Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] RE: Burlington ballast
>
>
> > The Q had a dislocated property called something like the "Chicago,
> > Burlington and Hammond" - don't remember the exact name but it shows up
in
> > the W.W. Baldwin corporate history.... that was adjacent to an EJ&E yard
in
> > Hammond. Somebody once told me they had a 2-10-2 stationed down there.
The
> > purpose of the operation was specifically to bring up the slag ballast
from
> > the steel mills that was used on the mainline in the Chicago area and
> > westward.
> > Can anybody throw any light on this operation???
> > Charlie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Virginia Edgar" <vje68@h...>
> > To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:42 PM
> > Subject: [BRHSlist] RE: Burlington ballast
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Burlington Ballast per se depends where & when on the system - the Q
had
> > > it's own ballast & gravel pits plus purchased from commercial sources
so
> > the
> > > "type" varies over time & location. That said - St. Paul southward to
> > > LaCrosse: per Q system ballast records of "65 (inc. what was used
> > previous
> > > back to 1940) there was the following (and bear in mind cinders were
> > common
> > > on sidings and older ballast would exist with newer depending on
whether a
> > > main, passing siding, spur, etc). From Dayton's Bluff to Newport &
N-bd.
> > > main from there to MP 410.5
> > > and Prescott south it was crushed rock applied in "56/57 with
> > intermittent
> > > Speno cleaning in "66. (Some crushed rock was done in "46). Previous
it
> > had
> > > been chatts applied "42 & earlier with exception of cinders in "47
from MP
> > > 405 to Prescott. This was pretty much the norm to LaX except for
varying
> > > areas of Speno Cleaning &/or light surfacing in mid-60's. Gerald
Edgar
> > >
> > >
> > >
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