Thanks for the answers so far.
So the way I read this, only the California, Denver, Morning/Afternoon, and
Nebraska Zephyrs were the only "all lightweight" trains the Q ran.
That being said, and understanding that I have a "plastic" versus a "brass"
budget:) what would be the best way to model a SSS chair car and what head
end cars are the closest on the market today?
Rick Keil
Omaha
From: rgortowski@a...
Reply-To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] 10-6 Sleepers and Zephyr questions
Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 09:36:08 EST
In a message dated 1/6/02 5:27:55 AM Central Standard Time, Aeolus3@a...
writes:
> The American Royal Zephyr used both heavy weight and streamlined cars.
You
> would often find the rebuilt SSS Coaches in the train. The same with the
> Blackhawk, I don't know as much about the Blackhawk as I would like, but
I
> would assume heavy weights and streamlined equipment. I know my
Blackhawk
> will have 3 SSS coaches, 2 prewar flat top Budd coaches, an NP Diner,
one
> 10-6 from the CZ Pool, one 6-6-4 Burlington Silver Orchid, and bringing
up
> the markers a heavy weight Pullman. Of course alot of Head End
Equipment.
While Loren has a great answer here, like every consist, it fluctuated over
time. For example, in 1950, the year I model, the American Royal had not
yet
acheived Zephyr status and was (likely) running with (2) heavyweight chair
cars, a heavyweight diner, an 8-1-3 sleeper (likely the Denver Tower and
Mission Tower turtle-top roofed and skirted sleepers) and a 12-2
"University"
sleeper. The 1950 Blackhawk was combined with the GN's Oriental Limited
(Chicago to St. Paul/Minneapolis then on to Seattle - using the old Empire
Builder heavyweight cars). It likely carried (2) 52 seat pre-war SS
coaches,
and (2) 8-5 "Clover" sleepers. This train was a night train and didn't
pick
up it's diner until LaCross, WI (it also dropped it their on the return
trip)
The Oriental Limited cars were all heavyweights. After 1951, the
Blackhawk
was often combined with GN's new Western Star streamliner on the Chicago to
St. Paul run.
As you can see, it is much neater to model 1950 and have a great mix of
cars,
rather than just boring, old stainless steel cars! ;-)
Rich
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