Re: [CBQ] Q power on EB

["Bill Schultz via groups.io" <jwschultz9=aol.com@groups.io>]

Warren --

To expand upon several of the other replies, for the first nine months of 1960, two E8/9s were standard.  Beginning September 30, the Builder was consolidated with the westbound Afternoon Zephyr and eastbound North Coast Limited east of St. Paul during the so-called "off season" (mid-September to the first week in June excepting approximately December 15-January 3).  The consolidated operation began with four E8/9s, but soon thereafter, E7s (one or two) began to appear.  Westbound at St. Paul, the motors that had previously arrived on the NCL were relayed to the AZ, with the four motors arriving on the AZ/EB returning eastbound with the following day's EB/NCL.  When the combined trains were split (account train heating limitations or a late eastbound connection at St. Paul), the westbound EB (normally 11 cars) got a pair of E8/9s and the AZ (as few as four cars) got whatever two were left over (paired E7s, E7-E8/9, paired E8/9s) during periods of sustained below-zero temperatures.  I suspect the westbound split of the normal 15-car train had more to do with having crews in place the following day for the independent operation of the EB and NCL (normally a single 18- to 19-car train).  Eastbound, the first departing train likely drew the most convenient pair of motors.  Thus, it is likely that at one time or another, a pair of E7s handled the eastbound EB, though I've discovered no such examples.  

I've found no 1960-1965 examples of E5s powering the EB.  A pair of E8/9s were good for trains of up to 15 cars; 16 or more got a third motor.  The westbound NCL's regular westbound high-season consist was 16 cars (15 eastbound), and there are a few examples of the eastbound EB with three motors (2 E8/9, 1 E7), which may have been attributable to using the westbound NCL's inbound motors back to Chicago on the EB.  There is some photographic evidence of E5 9915B used as the third (trailing) motor on the high-season westbound NCL.     

Long story short, during the "high season" (June- to mid-September) or when operated independently during the off-season, a pair of E8/9s were typically/reliably assigned.

Bill Schultz

    

On Saturday, October 19, 2024 at 01:53:17 PM CDT, Warren Hanson via groups.io <cbq4630=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

What power did the Q operate the EB with?  E7?  E 8/9?  Combo?Was there a cut off date?  Im interested in 60-65 era.

Thank you!

Warren Hanson

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