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Subject: Re: [CBQ] [EarlyRail] Photo: Simple Weathering Project - CB&Q Boxcar 12138
From: "Leo Phillipp via groups.io" <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2020 19:13:11 -0500
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Thanks Bill.

Leo

> On Jun 23, 2020, at 2:33 PM, William Hirt <whirt@fastmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Leo,
> 
> It very well could be. I've attached the 1909 Sanborn maps for the area and 
> the track work in the photo appears to match those on panel 48.
> 
> In the early-mid 1960s, the Q built a brand new freight house in North Kansas 
> City closer to Murray Yard. There is a picture of it in one of the Bulletins 
> on Burlington Bulletin CD.
> 
> Bill Hirt
> 
>> On 6/22/2020 7:56 PM, Leo Phillipp via groups.io wrote:
>> Was the freight house in the flood picture the Q house ? Did the Q have any 
>> others in KC ?
>> 
>> Leo
>> 
>>>> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:57 PM, William Hirt <whirt@fastmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Just as point of reference, the west bottoms area of Kansas City (which is 
>>> where this photo was taken) has not flooded again since the great 1951 
>>> flood. After that flood, a 50 foot concrete flood wall was built. Even in 
>>> 1993 which caused anxiety in Kansas City about flooding, the water level 
>>> never reached closer than 10 feet below the top of the flood wall.
>>> 
>>> The 1951 flood however decimated the stockyards and meat packers in the 
>>> area. The area never totally recovered as the livestock to market pattern 
>>> changed and Omaha became the biggest packing town.
>>> 
>>> This Esther Bubley photo from 1948 (part of the Newberry Library CB&Q 
>>> collection) shows the west bottoms as it's height prior to the 1951 flood. 
>>> The elevated track is the old Kansas City Public Service line that entered 
>>> a tunnel beneath the photographer to get to downtown Kansas City.
>>> 
>>> Bill Hirt
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> <Kansas+City++1906-1917+vol.+1,+1906,+Sheet+39.pdf>
> <Kansas+City++1906-1917+vol.+1,+1906,+Sheet+48.pdf>


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