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Re: [CBQ] Empire Builder Location

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From: "Matt Carlson" <matt@grandcrossing.us>
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:22:59 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Empire Builder Location

Winona Jct  to East Winona just north of La Crosse was were the big washout was in 1965 as well.

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Martin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2019 9:07 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Empire Builder Location

 

I believe #4960 was in Savanna and used to ferry trains thru the high water that the diesels couldn't handle due to their traction motors.  I don't know if #4960 was already there or sent from Aurora to help with the floods.  Jim Boyd wrote about trying to chase flood detours in Railfan and Railroad magazine and agonizing over whether to head to Savanna or head somewhere on the CGW or Milwaukee Road in Northern Illinois to catch detours... he regretted not going to Savanna since according to him the only person that got the shots of #4960 wading in Savanna was the local newspaper photographer.  

 

I've also read that during one of those floods a man named Lon Coone owned the Illinois Central 2-8-0 that is at Steamtown and it was being stored in Clinton I think.  It was fired up as well to switch cars in the floodwaters to keep the corn processing facilities going.

 

Mike Martin / Mahomet, IL


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From: Ken Martin via Groups.Io <kmartin537=surewest.net@groups.io>
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Sent: Wed, Nov 27, 2019 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Empire Builder Location

1965 was the year the levee across from Burlington, IA gave way and the water going through a RR underpass took out I want to say three hundred yards of Q mainline.

Ken Martin




> On Nov 27, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Frederick Ripley <fjripley68@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom and List,
>
> The big flood was definitely 1965, with CB&Q detours on MILW covered in "Trains".  Not to say there couldn't have been a reroute in 1966.
>
> As the water rose but they were still trying to use the CB&Q, for a day or two a steam loco on display at Lacrosse I think was put into service, ferrying trains a short distance over trackage with water almost to rail heads that diesels couldn't negotiate.  In the "Trains" coverage there is a shot of it with the "Builder/NCL".
>
> Fred R.
> Columbus, OH
>


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