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Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions
From: "Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2019 12:32:19 -0400
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Dennis,

 

As you said,  the Aeolus issue was printed back in August 1985 and been out of print for a very long time.  Not everyone who participates in this group has access to all of the Bulletins like some of us do.

 

Dave

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Popish via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, July 6, 2019 12:46 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

It is astounding that topics are raised and theories are proposed for issues that have been well documented long ago in the historical records presented in our Burlington Bulletins.

 

If only we would take the time to look these up and read them.

 

Burlington Bulletin No. 14, published in August 1985 is the complete treatise on the Aeolus.

 

Hol Wagner provides the complete history of how the engines were shrouded, stating that “a light structural steel framework was designed to serve as a support for the stainless steel sheathing and it was erected over the boiler, pilot and tender.

 

The framework was secured to the running boards of the locomotive and had no direct contact with the boiler itself. Stainless steel panels were attached to the framework using Shakeproof self-tapping screws rather than Budd’s patented Shotwelding process.”

 

 

Dennis Popish

 


On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:

Dave-

I wonder if the two AEOLUS stainless steel sheathings required Shotwelding in fabrication….I would imagine so.   The Shotweld units could be, IIRC, suspended from an overhead tackle that could be moved within reach of the work area so were not permanent installations so the Aurora shops might have loaned the equipment and experienced operators for the fabrication of the shrouds on the locomotive and tenders.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 3:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

Dennis,

 

We are looking for definitive proof for the West Burlington Shops since the shot welding process would have been required.


Dave

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Popish via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

Dave:

 

To the second question, since stainless steel diesels and passenger cars were being maintained by their own forces since 1934 why would their diesel and car shops not be able to maintain the E-5’s as part of their normal fleet maintenance operations?

 

Thanks- Dennis Popish


On Jul 5, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Of course, now that the “definitive” work on the E5s has been printed, there are a couple of questions that have arisen.

 

The first is what was the reason (or reasons) for the Burlington removing the names from the E5 locomotives.  If anyone has a definitive answer, please share it.  There are a couple of theories, but nothing definitive.  We know that when this was done, they simply flipped the name plates placing blank side out.

 

The second is when E5 body repairs were needed, did the West Burlington Shops have the shot welding equipment to do this, or did they have Budd representatives come and do the work?   The other possible scenarios would be to have the units sent to Aurora, but did Aurora have the shot welding equipment, or did they have Budd representatives come and do the work?

 

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

Dave Lotz

 

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