Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

["HOL WAGNER" <holpennywagner@msn.com>]

About all I can add to this thread is that there was never any Shotwelding equipment on the west end of the system at Denver, neither at the Joint Locomotive Shops (closed in 1955) or at the diesel shop at 23rd Street.  Stainless steel locomotives and cars needing repairs (including C&S-FW&D equipment) were always sent east to Aurora, where, as it was widely understood out here, the ONLY Shotwelding equipment on the railroad was located.

Hol

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From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Leo Phillipp via Groups.Io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 6:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

Yes, Aurora knew hot to repair Stainless steel. The Train of the Goddesses was involved in the April 1947 Downers Grove wreck and went to the Aurora Shops for repairs, rebuild and return to service. Then in August the train of the Gods went through Aurora Shops for refurb. This info. Is included in a special upcoming Bulletin on the Aurora Shops. 

Leo Phillipp

Author of said referenced future Bulletin

On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:

Dave-

I wonder if the two AEOLUS stainless steel sheathings required Shotwelding in fabrication….I would imagine so.   The Shotweld units could be, IIRC, suspended from an overhead tackle that could be moved within reach of the work area so were not permanent installations so the Aurora shops might have loaned the equipment and experienced operators for the fabrication of the shrouds on the locomotive and tenders.

Charlie Vlk

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Lotz
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 3:42 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

Dennis,

 

We are looking for definitive proof for the West Burlington Shops since the shot welding process would have been required.

Dave

 

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Popish via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 12:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] E5 Questions

 

Dave:

 

To the second question, since stainless steel diesels and passenger cars were being maintained by their own forces since 1934 why would their diesel and car shops not be able to maintain the E-5’s as part of their normal fleet maintenance operations?

 

Thanks- Dennis Popish

On Jul 5, 2019, at 9:34 AM, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi all,

 

Of course, now that the “definitive” work on the E5s has been printed, there are a couple of questions that have arisen.

 

The first is what was the reason (or reasons) for the Burlington removing the names from the E5 locomotives.  If anyone has a definitive answer, please share it.  There are a couple of theories, but nothing definitive.  We know that when this was done, they simply flipped the name plates placing blank side out.

 

The second is when E5 body repairs were needed, did the West Burlington Shops have the shot welding equipment to do this, or did they have Budd representatives come and do the work?   The other possible scenarios would be to have the units sent to Aurora, but did Aurora have the shot welding equipment, or did they have Budd representatives come and do the work?

 

Inquiring minds want to know.

 

Dave Lotz

 

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