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Re: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville

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From: "HOL WAGNER" <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2019 17:48:24 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville
Here is the locomotive, still lettered UP 781, as it looked when it arrived at Hartville Junction to be turned over to the C&W in 1901.

Hol




From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 10:43 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville
 
Louis:  These are both views of Colorado & Wyoming 102, an ex-UP 4-4-0 purchase by the C&S for the Colorado & Wyoming in 1902.  The Colo. & Wyo., owned by the Colorado Fuel & Iron Co., built a 14-mile railroad from Hartville Junction on the C&S to Hartville and the nearby Sunrise Mine of CF&I.  It crossed the North Platte River at what was known on the C&W as Porter, and soon became the west end of Guernsey.
The C&S bought a total of three UP 4-4-0s for the C&W and they became C&W 101-103.  The 101-102 were used on the C&W's Northern Division (the Hartville Jct.-Sunrise line), while the 103 worked the C&W's Southern Division between Trinidad and the CF&I coal mines at Primero, Segundo, Tercio and Quatro west of Trinidad.  C&W's Central Division was at the Pueblo (actually Bessemer, then Minnequa) steel mill on the southern edge of Pueblo.

Hol


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Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 8:53 AM
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March 3, 2019
 
Hol - Please clarify.  Were these two 4-4-0's C&NW, CB&Q or C&S?  Were both images of  the 102? Since the ore cars are C&S, you'd think the 4-4-0 would be C&S, too.  The Corbin Book lists a 102 as a 4-4-0, but states it was off the roster by 1903.  Looking forward to your comments - Louis 
 
 
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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville

Here's an earlier view of the 102 switching the mine.

Hol




From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville
 
Brian-
Doesn’t have much of a “Q” feel to anything in the photo.  Looks like the tender is lettered in block lettering…might be C&NW???
Note that car 300 has a headlight mounted on one end.
Charlie Vlk
 
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Garner
Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 3:06 PM
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Subject: [CBQ] Guernsey/Hartville
 
One more photos I am trying to identify.  This one is from Wyoming but unsure if it was on the line that ran from Guernsey to the Sunrise mine or if it was used during the construction of the Guernsey Dam or the new rail line to Wendover.  Wondering if this is a CB&Q or C&S engine.  Engine number looks to be 102 or 103.

Thanks,
Brian

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