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Re: [CBQ] Locomotive 1374

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Locomotive 1374
From: "David" <djross720@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2019 10:43:55 -0500
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Michael, hi! This part of the story is pretty well recorded.  The crate stood around 17 1/2 ft. above the rails and clearance routing was a huge problem.  From St. Louis the train went to Alton, IL and crossed the Miss. R. there on the way to Brookfield, it’s next overnight stop, then on to K.C.  I think the idea was to avoid the congestion in cities like Chicago and St. Louis proper, but there might have also been clearance issues with the tunnels you mention.  Burlington had it St. Louis to Brookfield, Brookfield to K.C. where the Santa Fe took over.  But darned if I can find a photo or even an engine number to testify to it!

DR


On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:09 AM, Michael Woodruff <mwoodruff54@gmail.com> wrote:

There are tunnels on the Mopac west of St. Louis at Grays Summit and Labadie.  That load doesn't look excessively high in the photo, but no idea what the Mopac's tunnel clearances were like in 1936.

msw
akron, oh

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 10:02 AM William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com> wrote:
David,

Yes, the locomotive in the photo is definitely a Santa Fe pacific type 4-6-2 no. 1374 and, I agree with Ed Pavlovic that the caboose is also Santa Fe. Furthermore, looking at the background of the photo it doesn’t look anything like Missouri. The hills are too rugged and the terrain looks more barren and desert like. I think is somewhere further west on the AT&SF, so they may have used more than one locomotive on the movement. For the record, CB&Q’s no. 1374 was a G-1 0-6-0 retired in November, 1931.

Moving this load on the Q from St. Louis to KC seems rather circuitous. It would seem that a better and more direct route would have been MoPac unless there were clearance issues.

Bill Barber


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