Louis,
Here is a scan from St. Joseph Division Employee Timetable 50
Effective Sunday January 9, 1938 for the Atchison spur. It's an
Adobe PDF file because the timetable is horse blanket size.
Winthrop was where the Q started east of the Atchison bridge which
was owned by the Atchison and Eastern Bridge Co. The bridge still
stands, but is in disuse as the line east of the bridge was
abandoned by BNSF after the last Missouri River flood. Some of
track is still in place in flood damaged form. I do not have a
complete set of Q public or employee timetables for the first half
of the 1950s, but this connection train service changed to a bus
connection between 1952 and 1954. The bus connection lasted into
the early 1960s. Train service was indicated to be by motor car.
Also note service to East Leavenworth from Leavenworth at the
time because the RI was still in Leavenworth. The Q Missouri side
stop for Leavenworth changed to Beverly once the RI pulled out.
Stillings was where the CGW changed power in the steam days. I've
been told you can still find the footings for the old CGW
roundhouse there. Today, it is just open farm country. They split
their trains into two with smaller power to make the sharp curve
off the bridge on the Kansas side onto their MP trackage rights
into KC. This was the sharpest mainline curve in the U.S. during
it's service time.
The Q January-April 1939 Public Timetable shows the stub train
connection to Leavenworth was changed and then became between
Leavenworth and Beverly.
The Q October-December 1940 Public Timetable showed this was
changed to a Burlington Bus connection between Leavenworth and
Beverly. This service was dropped by 1954/55. There is a note in
the timetable for KC-Omaha trains that passengers must have their
own transportation between Leavenworth and Beverly. I suspect the
MP's Missouri River Eagle had siphoned off much of the Leavenworth
passenger traffic.
I've also attached a booklet about operation of the electric
staff system on the RI between Leavenworth, Stillings, and
Beverly. The Q is still referred to as the Kansas City, St. Joseph
and Council Bluffs in the document and used it between Leavenworth
and Stillings. The staff system was discontinued when the RI
abandoned just prior to World War II. This was provided to me by
Jeff Needham, a local Kansas City modeler. He will be doing a
presentation on Leavenworth on Friday August 10 at the Layout
Design Sig Banquet in concert with the National Model Railroad
Association Convention in Kansas City.
Bill Hirt
On 7/30/2018 3:36 PM, Louis Zadnichek
via Groups.Io wrote:
July 30, 2018
Pete - It may be that
the PZ was photographed at St. Joe, not Atchison,
KS. Although the Atchison and St. Joe depots are
similar in design (wonder if the same architect
designed both?), there seems no good reason for the
PZ to be in Atchison, unless it was on exhibition
when new. That would be a possibility per Bill
Hirt's Email mentioning the motor car service from
Atchison to Armour, MO, connecting with Q passenger
trains on the St. Joe Division. Check the following
web site:
Note the Q is not shown
on the train board meaning that passenger service
had been discontinued sometime earlier. Since the PZ
looks so "shiny new" in the image, may be it was on
exhibition. The engineer's leather cap looks more
1930s than later. Plus, the employee time table the
conductor is holding sure looks like an oversize
"horse blanket" style of the 1930s.
But, then again, like
you say, may be the location is St. Joe. Is there a
list somewhere that gives all the exhibition stops
with dates for the PZ? Best Regards - Louis
In a message dated 7/30/2018 8:46:28 AM Central Standard
Time,
jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io writes:
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