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Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 20:03:08 -0500
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Burke eastbound out of Savanna was always a challenge even in BN DAYS. It was some what routine to double or get shoved over.
Most often it was a long slow grinding climb. 
In steam days the answer was to run a double header all the way from Savanna to Cicero. Someday I'll write an article on what the union files revealed. 
The Denrock- Mendota branch was a place to dump a heavy eastbound train so as not to gum up the C&I. Lots of claims for doubling Ohio and Walnut. But don't take any initiative and make one long single double over both in one move. If you did it was turned down as it was preferred to do two penalty 25 mile doubles as compared to the time saving, and better paying single 100 mile double.

Same applied to So Ottawa hill west or southbound. Leo

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On Aug 25, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Ted Schnepf railsunl@sbcglobal.net [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Louis,

I would think in STEAM days there were many helper grades on the Q.  The helpers may have been used only occasionally for extra heavy trains.  I would think a eastbound heavy train out of Savanna would have been helped to Burke.  Same would hold for both directions out of Ottumwa.  These probably were not daily occurrences, but as needed.

I know on the Milwaukee Road grades as flat as 0.6% in certain cases, required helpers for heavy trains to keep a line fluid and not have trains reducing tonnage, or doubling hills.

People with more Q knowledge please add to the list.

ted

At 03:51 PM 8/24/2017, you wrote:


August 24, 2017
 
Group - Was West Burlington Hill the only regularly assigned helper district on Lines East during the steam era? Does anyone know what the steam whistle signals were such as go ahead, back off, stop..... Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL

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