July 26, 2016
Hol - My proof reading isn't much better..... Should be "without" you. Best
Regards - Louis
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 7/26/2017
5:23:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Re: [CBQ] 9123 or not
July 26, 2017
Hol - What would we do with you....... Many thanks for firmly IDing the
Cummins image as taken at the 14th Street Coach Yard in Chicago.
Plus, the image had not been airbrushed like I suspected. Instead, the unit
was unlettered and testing as a switch engine at the time. The Burlington
Route logo and road number were applied to the unit later after
it arrived at Childress.
Also, I just learned something. I never knew there was a coal chute at
14th Street. I knew there was a turntable and stand pipes for water, but the
small steel coal chute is "new" to me. I had always thought locomotives
went to the Western Avenue passenger locomotive roundhouse to be coaled
at the large chute there. Is it safe to say that the 14th Street chute was
mainly for the 0-6-0's switching the coach yard?
It's amazing what obscure Q history appears in this Group. Best
Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 7/26/2017 3:09:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner
included below]
Rupert and Louis:
I've been up in the mountains camping again, so this reply is a bit
tardy. But, yes, the photo on ebay is indeed WV 101 after delivery to
the Q and while it was being used as the 14th St. coachyard switcher.
After the subsequent testing mentioned in the centercab Bulletin, the
locomotive received its Burlington Route heralds and WV RR 101 identity at
Chilcress, where it was tested for several days (and when the photo Louis
posted) before being sent on down to Wichita Falls for service. I'm
attaching my copy of the scan Louis posted and also a scan of Q S-1-A 2860
at 14th St., showing the coal chute (erected in 1928) and the sand
tower.
Hol
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
<CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]
<CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:28
PM
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] 9123 or
not
July 26, 2017
Rupert - I've looked again at the image of the Cummins unit. The first
numeral on the steam locomotive cab at far right is a 5. That IDs it as a
500 series Class G-10 0-6-0 type. They were used system wide, so no help in
IDing the location. I've never seen a sand tower (if it is a sand
tower) like the one behind the unit. So, if anyone can place the
tower, then we ought to know where (and maybe when) the image was
taken.
No Class G-10s to my knowledge ended-up on either the C&S or
FW&D/WV. So, the image had to be taken at some yard on the Q prior
to the unit's journey into Texas. Further, I'm satisfied the image
was air-brushed to remove the owner's logo (could've
been Cummins or Burlington Route) and number on the side of the
cab for advertising or some other commercial purpose. So, that would almost
certainly mean the image was taken either during testing or after the Q had
purchased the unit. Other than that, you've got me.....
Always interesting to delve into and speculate on these old
photographs. Best Regards - Louis
From: LZadnichek@aol.com
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 7/26/2017
10:36:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time
Subj: Re: [CBQ] 9123 or
not
July 26, 2017
Rupert - Appreciate your expert sleuthing. Well done. The attached
image is all I have. Wish it was higher rez, too, so we could see more
detail. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 7/25/2017 7:30:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Louis
Sorry
– the bad news is that the photo shows WV 101 not FW&D 601. The good
news is that, according to the Bulletin, no in service photos were known
of 101, so you have a first!
According to the Bulletin, the
Burlington tested the unit at various locations after it was received in
Chicago from Cummings (where the company photo now on eBay was taken),
then C&S tested it for 5 days, and then FW&DC tested it in
switching for 6 days, before it actually worked on the WV.
If the
numbers and letters were not applied until the Cummins unit was on
FW&DC territory as originally planned, the photo must date between
25 September 1937 (when FW&DC received it from C&S) and February
1938.
Is it possible to get a larger copy of the
photo?
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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Sent: Wednesday, 26 July 2017 7:37
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Rupert - It
comes with age.....I misread your posting. Guess I need to be
shopped to have my dry pipe unclogged. I stand
corrected.
Anyway, I do
have an inserted/attached image to share of FW&D 601 taken
at Childress, TX. The image was ID'd as "First Diesel Switch
Engine At Childress, TX 1937" and that would match with
your delivery date.
Perhaps, a
FW&D-Wichita Valley expert in our Group would like to further
comment on No. 601. As for the Midwest advertising photograph, may
be it was taken while 601 was testing on the Q in Chicago, or Houston on
the FW&D. The rear cab of the steam locomotive in the
background looks Q to me, but I do not recognize the sand tower
(if not a small coal chute) as Q. Always enjoyable to
speculate on these old images. Best Regards -
Louis
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