Wow! My proofreading really sucks. Should have said the 101 got its stenciling at Childress, where it was tested for several days (and where the photo Louis posted
was taken) . . .
Hol
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Rupert and Louis:
I've been up in the mountains camping again, so this reply is a bit tardy. But, yes, the photo on ebay is indeed WV 101 after delivery to the Q and while it was being used as the 14th St. coachyard switcher. After the subsequent testing mentioned in the
centercab Bulletin, the locomotive received its Burlington Route heralds and WV RR 101 identity at Chilcress, where it was tested for several days (and when the photo Louis posted) before being sent on down to Wichita Falls for service. I'm attaching my copy
of the scan Louis posted and also a scan of Q S-1-A 2860 at 14th St., showing the coal chute (erected in 1928) and the sand tower.
Hol
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Rupert - I've looked again at the image of the Cummins unit. The first numeral on the steam locomotive cab at far right is a 5. That IDs it as a 500 series Class G-10 0-6-0 type. They were used system wide, so no help in IDing the location. I've never
seen a sand tower (if it is a sand tower) like the one behind the unit. So, if anyone can place the tower, then we ought to know where (and maybe when) the image was taken.
No Class G-10s to my knowledge ended-up on either the C&S or FW&D/WV. So, the image had to be taken at some yard on the Q prior to the unit's journey into Texas. Further, I'm satisfied the image was air-brushed to remove the owner's logo (could've been Cummins
or Burlington Route) and number on the side of the cab for advertising or some other commercial purpose. So, that would almost certainly mean the image was taken either during testing or after the Q had purchased the unit. Other than that, you've got me.....
Always interesting to delve into and speculate on these old photographs. Best Regards - Louis
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Rupert - Appreciate your expert sleuthing. Well done. The attached image is all I have. Wish it was higher rez, too, so we could see more detail. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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Louis
Sorry – the bad news is that the photo shows WV 101 not FW&D 601. The good news is that, according to the Bulletin, no in service photos were known of 101, so you have a first!
According to the Bulletin, the Burlington tested the unit at various locations after it was received in Chicago from Cummings (where the company photo now on eBay was taken), then C&S tested it for 5 days, and then FW&DC tested it in switching for 6 days, before
it actually worked on the WV.
If the numbers and letters were not applied until the Cummins unit was on FW&DC territory as originally planned, the photo must date between 25 September 1937 (when FW&DC received it from C&S) and February 1938.
Is it possible to get a larger copy of the photo?
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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Rupert - It comes with age.....I misread your posting. Guess I need to be shopped to have my dry pipe unclogged. I stand corrected.
Anyway, I do have an inserted/attached image to share of FW&D 601 taken at Childress, TX. The image was ID'd as "First Diesel Switch
Engine At Childress, TX 1937" and that would match with your delivery date.
Perhaps, a FW&D-Wichita Valley expert in our Group would like to further comment on No. 601. As for the Midwest advertising photograph,
may be it was taken while 601 was testing on the Q in Chicago, or Houston on the FW&D. The rear cab of the steam locomotive in the background looks Q to me, but I do not recognize the sand tower (if not a small coal chute) as Q. Always enjoyable to speculate
on these old images. Best Regards - Louis
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