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Responding to an older post when we were talking about hypothetical Q steam Louis wrote, October 5, 2015 Mike and Rupert - I believe that Charlie Vlk might be able to tell us more,
but it's my understanding that a NYC 4-6-4 demonstrated on the Q during the time
period the Super Hudson S-4-A's were being designed. However, I've never seen
any photos of a NYC 4-6-4 powering Q passenger trains of the era. Has anyone
else? If this actually happened, then imagine how an ALCO
NYC Hudson would've appeared as a Q passenger locomotive..... Mike, you have a
vivid imagination. I like that! Best Regards - Louis Louis Zadnichek II
And now I write... this is quite interesting that the Q may have been interested in a Super Hudson of some sort. Around 1937 or so ALCO built the C&NW E4s and Milwaukee Road F7s both with 84" drivers while Baldwin built the #3460 class Hudsons for the Santa Fe with the same size drivers. One might think that the Q would have been a candidate for the 84" driver club Hudsons but they had already gone whole hog for diesels. The C&NW Hudsons weren't used on the 400s though. They were for the mainline UP / CNW trains to Omaha and I don't think they were used on the 400s. If the Burlington would have had Baldwin construct a Super Hudson what would it have looked like. Utilitarian like a Santa Fe Hudson or streamlined or ? I think a plausible and cheap model could be made using an old PFM Tenshodo Santa Fe Hudson and then put some sort of coal tender behind it. I kind of think the box styling Santa Fe used might have been too extreme for the Burlington so they would have done something different. If it was streamlined would the Q have tried to have gotten a Dreyfuss or Kuhler to style like NYC and Milwaukee or just stuck with stainless steel and designed it along the lines of the Aeoli (my plural for the Alice twins). I could see the Q maybe buying a class of six Super Hudsons from Baldwin. You have to kind of figure that the thing would be stainless... unless the Q went bonkers like the Santa Fe and painted it blue. And I've not ever seen any explanation for why the #3460 was blue. In this thread the USRA heavy pacific was mentioned as a forerunner of the #3000s as well as the Southern Railway Ps-4 Pacifics like #1401 in the Smithsonian. I've thought for a very long time that a really cool hypothetical engine for the Q would be a PFM Ps-4. Take the walkway off of the tender, replace the trailing truck with a Delta, get rid of the flutes on the stack and BANGO you've got a Q heavy Pacific. It even has an Elesco on the smokebox. The only thing not plausible is the Southern 4-6-2s drivers are only like 73" or so. Q would have had 78s at least but if you use it for a dual use engine 73" would work. More nutball thoughts, Mike Martin __._,_.___ Posted by: atsf3460@frontier.com __,_._,___ |